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  1. Tyler Broderick
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    1/30/2013 10:01 PM
    Hello anyone,

    I have recently (this week) been promoted to Superintendent at my course. I have worked at this course for this company for 7 months. I got hired back in June after graduation to be the Assistant Superintendent and now as the super, I have a boatload of stuff to do and don't really know where to start. My previous super did very little to prepare me for what I am facing. Long story short, I need a friend. Not only am I new to the job, I am new to this part of the country (Phoenix). Anyone in the Phoenix area looking to help a young newbie out, I would greatly appreciate it.

    Tyler Broderick



  2. Chad Shafer
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    1/31/2013 2:01 AM
    Tyler,
    Congrats on your new position. Its always a little scary getting your first head superintendent position. The first thing I would do is evaluate your staff and get to know each of your staff members strengths and weaknesses. It is important for you to have a strong staff in order to be successful(you can't do it alone you will need there help). Second I would go through any records and notes that the previous superintendent might have had so you can get an idea of what has taken place on the course in the past. I would get involved with your local superintendent chapter in the area there are a lot of great guys/gals willing to share there experiences when you get to know them. I would evaluate your equipment take inventory of what equipment you have and the condition of it. Hopefully you have a mechanic that can help you with this part if not contact your local vendors and they can usually help you with some of this stuff. I would sit down with the decision makers at your course (board, owners, etc.) and get there expectations of what they think the golf course should be like and what projects they may want to do in the future. At that time you can lay out your goals for the direction of the golf course. You want to make sure you have as much information as possible when you speak to the decision makers. (be prepared). Take really good records and notes so you can go back each year and see what worked and what didn't work. Use your time wisely you probably feel like you need to be there 24/7 365 but its important to take a little time for yourself every once in a while so you don't burn yourself out. Make priorities and goals and have backup plans when things come up because they will. I hope this helps you a little. Good luck and again congrats on the new position.
    Chad Shafer



  3. Andy Jorgensen
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    1/31/2013 6:01 AM
    First off, congratulations on the promotion! Second, congratulations on asking for help. Not many can put their pride aside and do that. I've been in the business for almost 18 years now and still find myself asking for help. Kudos!

    Go out right now and take as many pictures as you can of the current course conditions. Stick them in a file for use as ammo later.

    You'll find that your vendors can become your best friends. This is both good and bad. Find one you trust. This is usually the one you have already built a relationship with over the past seven months. Then, get a second opinion.

    Keep an open mind. Remember, it's not your course. The course belongs to the owner - weather one person or the members as a whole. Give them what they want, not what you want.

    Communicate, communicate, communicate. Don't be a stranger in the pro shop. The more you are seen, the more respect you'll get. Work the first tee on the Saturday morning. You'll find that complaints get a lot easier when you have formed relationships with those who complain. Just keep in mind it is better to listen and bite your tongue sometimes than to go on the defensive.

    Delegate to your staff. That's what they are there for. Your life will be much better because of this.

    If I can be of any help, please feel free to call. I probably can't help with the turf part since the only time I've spent in Arizona is a layover in the airport a few years ago. But, I'd be happy to offer help when needed.



  4. Ashton Alan W
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    1/31/2013 7:01 AM
    Tyler,

    Ditto on what the others said...

    Carmella at Cactus and Pine GCSA is the one to call 480-609-6778.

    I'm out in the east valley at a small private... send me a PM if you need a heads up... been here in Phoenix for 25+ years, so almost a native (as the joke goes!)...



  5. Melvin Waldron
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    1/31/2013 8:01 AM
    Congrats, and don't believe everything Andy says. Despite being in the transition zone myself, I have found some of Andy's turf knowledge useful, so I'm betting he can help you there. But with all other aspects of the business Andy would be a go to person with that, I bet he might even give you bar-b-que tips and tips on bacon?

    I have been in the business for 30 something years if I go back to my cart boy days or count when I would just go to work with mom and dad when they worked in the clubhouse and I'm still learning everyday, (sad part is I'm either relearning something or I didn't learn it very well the first time around.)

    Mel

    Melvin H. Waldron III, CGCS, Horton Smith Golf Course, City of Springfield/Greene County MO

  6. Larry Allan
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    1/31/2013 8:01 AM
    Nice to see someone with that attitude on the forum. The fact that your willing to admit that you feel over your head will make you a better superintendent. After 22 years I feel exactly the same each morning when I wake up



  7. Garrett Schultz
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    1/31/2013 9:01 AM
    Tyler- Congratulations on your new position! I can speak from experience that the advice both Chad and Andy gave you was spot on! I was in a similar situation this past year. I graduated in the spring of 2011, then became the 2nd Assistant at a course I had interned at. One year later a head Superintendent position for 27 municipal holes opened up, I interviewed, and was lucky enough to land the job. I was then thrust immediately into the position of overseeing 2 courses and managing a staff that ranged anywhere from my same age to 60(!) years older than me. I will echo the other responses...COMMUNICATION is key.

    Get to know your staff on a professional and personal level. Show them that you care, and are here to work as a team to provide the best results you can. Don't go in guns blazing and change things just because. I started out by observing the operation, seeing how things were handled, and listening to the staff's suggestions. Make adjustments from there, develop your own programs as time goes on, and settle in. Just because you are now the "boss," do not be afraid to pick the staff members brains...likely some of them have been at your course for a period of time and have great local knowledge. Don't feel like you need to know everything, utilize your resources and ask questions of your staff and peers in the turf industry!! I followed this outline and it was the best choice I could have made...Being a young superintendent myself I have what some consider "fresh" or new, creative ideas and ways to do things with new technology and what not....use this to your advantage, but undoubtedly combine those skills with everything your staff knows and has done in the past...more times than not the tried and true methods work! The combination of taking what was in place at the course, listening to staff's ideas, and tweaking things with my personal preference has produced the best results.

    Don't get frustrated or overwhelmed....there are going to be days when staff members are arguing, its a 100 degrees and a mainline broke, and the club championship is coming up, and you think to yourself "what the hell am I doing?!" Take it in stride, handle the situation in the present one piece at a time, and learn from your experiences.

    Use the GCSAA and this forum as a resource. If you have a problem/question, look around, a solution or ideas have likely been passed around. If not, ask! These guys have been through it all for years, utilize their expertise.

    Good luck and enjoy it! (sorry for the long response, felt the need to post as I have recent experience with this situation).



  8. James Schmid
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    1/31/2013 10:01 AM
    Chad Shafer said: Tyler,
    I would sit down with the decision makers at your course (board, owners, etc.) and get there expectations of what they think the golf course should be like.
    Chad Shafer



    This is the most important thing you can do right now. There are tons of things that you need to do, and you will not be able to do them all at once. You are not going to be able to do everything that you want right away. At first you are going to feel like you are always behind, and thats OK.

    Just find out what is important to your owners/members/powers that be, and make sure those things are taken care of. Their perception is what counts. If they want good greens make it your priority. If the number one complaint is the bunkers, find a way to improve them.

    If you can keep your membership happy, you can work on the rest as you go.



  9. Tyler Broderick
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    1/31/2013 12:01 PM
    Thank you everyone. I really appreiciate the advice. It is good to know there are some good people to lean on.



  10. Wally Dowe
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    1/31/2013 1:01 PM
    Tyler,

    Congratulations. I spent a couple of years in Scottsdale and the last 16 in Tucson. Feel free to contact me anytime with questions.

    Best of luck.

    Wally Dowe
    Ventana Canyon Golf & Racquet Club
    Tucson, AZ



  11. Grote Richard R
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    1/31/2013 1:01 PM
    A toast to Tyler "May your next 30 years in the business be as rewarding as all of ours have been"

    Rick Grote



  12. Thomas Brown
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    2/1/2013 6:02 AM
    Tyler,

    What great advice you've been given! Humility among your peers is a good starting point. I've been in the business since 1972.

    If I could add one thing, it would be that your crew can make or break you. I would always tell anyone I hired that their job was to make me look good and my job was to make the owners/B.O.D look like genius's for hiring me!

    Tom



  13. Sandy Clark
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    2/1/2013 9:02 AM
    Tyler, bone up on your communication skills. You will find this to be even more important than your turf knowledge. You will have to develop a management style that fits you. No two people do it exactly the same. The fact that you are asking for advice is great. I agree fully with taking every picture you can including pictures of your shop, your equipment and everything else you can think of. Be aware that some employees will try to test you and see what they can get away with. Be consistent because you don't ant the having favorites thing to develop. It will anyway but if you are straight forward and fair with everyone, it will never hold water. Learn the likes and dislikes of your boss and communicate with that person regularly rather it is through planned lunches, regular meetings or a regular golf round with them. As the guys have said, this is a lifetime of learning. Develop the priorities you initially see and also find out your bosses priorities. Communicate clearly and frequently in every direction. Best of luck and I hope you have a long, enjoyable and prosperous career. One last comment that I think is valuable. You may want to initially work yourself extremely hard to make that initial impression. Remember to allow yourself some decompression time. Don't forget your life, especially if family is involved. I guess it is trying to balance personal and business priorities into something that works.



  14. Corey Eastwood
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    2/1/2013 11:02 AM
    As in most business the key to success is communication and who you know not what you know. Go to meetings and local State Golf Association tournaments. Introduce your self and get to know the Association tournament and course rating officials. Also your local USGA Agronomist. These people are a wealth of knowledge and can be of great assistance to you in the future. I commend you for asking for help. Most in this business will not.

    Corey Eastwood CGCS, Stockton Golf & CC, Retired

  15. Paul Hallock
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    6 posts
    2/2/2013 9:02 AM
    Tyler Broderick said: Hello anyone,

    I have recently (this week) been promoted to Superintendent at my course. I have worked at this course for this company for 7 months. I got hired back in June after graduation to be the Assistant Superintendent and now as the super, I have a boatload of stuff to do and don't really know where to start. My previous super did very little to prepare me for what I am facing. Long story short, I need a friend. Not only am I new to the job, I am new to this part of the country (Phoenix). Anyone in the Phoenix area looking to help a young newbie out, I would greatly appreciate it.

    Tyler Broderick


    While I commend Tyler for his willingness to ask for help, is this not a really sad reflection on how our industry has changed? How many experienced superintendents would have loved the opportunity that an inexperienced newbie has been given.................................



  16. Wahlin Scott B
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    2/2/2013 10:02 AM
    Paul Hallock said: While I commend Tyler for his willingness to ask for help, is this not a really sad reflection on how our industry has changed? How many experienced superintendents would have loved the opportunity that an inexperienced newbie has been given.................................


    Are you saying that experience superintendents of today were not helped by superintendents of yesterday? Personally, I did an apprenticeship for two years after college and my superintendent stuck with me after I got my first head job. By the time I got that head job my superintendent saw to it that I knew everyone in the industry from fellow superintendents, USGA folks, university researchers and vendors. If I had a question or an issue I had plenty of back-up.



  17. Clay Putnam
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    2/2/2013 11:02 AM
    Paul Hallock said:
    Tyler Broderick said: Hello anyone,

    I have recently (this week) been promoted to Superintendent at my course. I have worked at this course for this company for 7 months. I got hired back in June after graduation to be the Assistant Superintendent and now as the super, I have a boatload of stuff to do and don't really know where to start. My previous super did very little to prepare me for what I am facing. Long story short, I need a friend. Not only am I new to the job, I am new to this part of the country (Phoenix). Anyone in the Phoenix area looking to help a young newbie out, I would greatly appreciate it.

    Tyler Broderick


    While I commend Tyler for his willingness to ask for help, is this not a really sad reflection on how our industry has changed? How many experienced superintendents would have loved the opportunity that an inexperienced newbie has been given.................................


    Probably all of them. But that has no relevance to this discussion, eh?



  18. Jennings Dustin T
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    2/6/2013 2:02 PM
    Tyler,

    congratulations on the promotion. I was in the same boat this time last year however I went straight from an intern to superintendent. The position just kind of fell in my lap but I must say I too was overwhelmed at the amount of responsibility I had inherited.

    The best advice I ever received was from one of my former bosses. He said the #1 rule is "do not shoot yourself in the foot". Meaning, do not be too quick in your decision making and do something that could set you back in the long run. in every decision you make, weigh the risks involved and don't go through with something until you have researched, double-checked, and asked for advice from as many sources as you can. This is the method I have lived by and has proven effective over the course of my first year as a superintendent.

    Also, always double-check your math on chemical mixing. one decimal place wrong and you can apply 10x too much or 10x too less chemical.

    Lastly, do not be afraid to ask questions even if you think it could be a dumb question. Obviously I do not have much experience myself, but in a years time you can learn a lot. Good luck.



  19. Matthew Neff
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    2/9/2013 6:02 AM
    Paul Hallock said: While I commend Tyler for his willingness to ask for help, is this not a really sad reflection on how our industry has changed? How many experienced superintendents would have loved the opportunity that an inexperienced newbie has been given.................................


    Are you kidding me? I'm sure plenty of experienced supers would've loved the job so would any of the hundreds of experienced assistants who have been spinning their wheels for the last 8-10 years trying to move up but I fail to see how this is a sad reflection on the industry. In my experience, there's just as many jobs going to experienced supers as to assistants. This kid was apparently in the right place at the right time and somebody had enough faith in him to give him a shot. You were inexperienced at some point in your career and someone hired you. Clearly, he's smart enough to come in here to get advice from you guys so I'm guessing it probably was a pretty good decision to give this guy a chance. Frankly, that's what assistants have always done - they eventually move up - that's kinda the point. For some it happens sooner...good for him.



  20. James Smith
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    2/17/2013 8:02 AM
    until you get your feet on the ground and possibly way past that, ALWAYS take any critism as constructive criticism!
    When someone tells you about something wrong on the course try to get right on it (you will forget if not). when asked to do something by another manager or owner or board member (which ever fits your postion) get right on it. you may forget later and not get it done. Always trust your first instincs but feel free to ask others. Good Luck.



  21. Stephen Ravenkamp
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    2/24/2013 5:02 PM
    Tyler,
    Congratulations on your new position. You've already gotten some positive feedback from Alan and Wally and I know they mean what they say about helping. I will also throw my hat in the ring if you need help. Also, get involved (if you aren't already) in Cactus and Pine. They have a lot of resources that are very helpful. Please feel free to contact me any time.
    Steve Ravenkamp, CGCS
    Apache Stronghold Golf Course
    (928) 812-5998



  22. Ashton Alan W
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    2/25/2013 9:02 AM
    Stephen Ravenkamp, CGCS said: Tyler,
    Congratulations on your new position. You've already gotten some positive feedback from Alan and Wally and I know they mean what they say about helping. I will also throw my hat in the ring if you need help. Also, get involved (if you aren't already) in Cactus and Pine. They have a lot of resources that are very helpful. Please feel free to contact me any time.
    Steve Ravenkamp, CGCS
    Apache Stronghold Golf Course
    (928) 812-5998


    Steve, I see a change of address... I feel a road trip coming on...



  23. Stephen Ravenkamp
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    2/25/2013 1:02 PM
    Any time, Alan.



  24. Frank Tichenor
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    2/27/2013 6:02 PM
    Don't really know how it is a sad reflection on the industry. I am on the wrong side of 50 but do not begrudge a young guy getting a shot. Someone took a chance on me years ago..... Back to what you need, help. Well you have taken the first step by admitting you need it. Similar to a 12 step program! Like the previous posts say, listen to your vendors, salesman (no disrespect here) tend to drop names of respected superintendents in the area. Find out who these guys are and then pick up the phone. I think you will be surprised how many will offer advice. The key thing is to LISTEN. Reach out to your local university. I cant say enough about the help I have gotten from my friends at Rutgers which is right in my back yard. Establish baselines such as ISTRC tests, USGA or other consultant reports, etc to track your progress. When you do have the USGA or other consultants in be specific about problems you may be having otherwise they sometimes get off topic You don't need a consultant talking about adding tiger tees when your looking at dead greens.Document in photos. The before and after photos you take now will most likely be the difference when your interviewing for your next GCS position. My mentor used to tell me "minimize your mistakes cause your going to make them" Sometimes we are so eager to be proactive when the opposite is needed. Think things out and try find what the worst case scenario would be before you do something. Lastly congratulations on your new position and get ready for many sleepless nights! :D



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