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  1. Melvin Waldron
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    43 posts
    2/16/2016 11:02 AM
    It has been aweful quite in here and with what is going on, I guess we don't state our opinions and debate like we used to.

    But my question is, what are peoples thoughts on this issue. I know it seems too soon to discuss, but when Turtleman said they wouldn't even break it up, Saturday and the Republicans debated the issue, the President has said he will pick one.

    My opinion is, the President make his selection, the Senate debate, appoint or not appoint, at least everyone is doing the jobs they were elected to.

    And for those Republican candidates that say no, I find it funny they talk about the Constitution, but I guess they don't want to follow it for the next 11 months?

    Mel

    Melvin H. Waldron III, CGCS, Horton Smith Golf Course, City of Springfield/Greene County MO

  2. Ronald Kirkman
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    42 posts
    2/16/2016 4:02 PM
    Mel;

    You must remember, Mr. Obama taught the Republicans about the Constitution.

    I will guarantee you this - Either Obama will make his pick now or when the next President is elected, which will be Bernie or Hillary - well, he/she will make the pick. Either a Democratic Socialist or a Democrat will make the pick. No big deal, we win either way.

    Capt. Kirk
    Retired Alien
    Needham Golf Club
    Needham, MA



  3. Clay Putnam
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    33 posts
    2/17/2016 7:02 AM
    "There is absolutely no doubt in my mind Judge Roberts is qualified to sit on the highest court in the land. Moreover, he seems to have the comportment and the temperament that makes for a good judge. He is humble, he is personally decent, and he appears to be respectful of different points of view. It is absolutely clear to me that Judge Roberts truly loves the law. He couldn't have achieved his excellent record as an advocate before the Supreme Court without that passion for the law..."

    "I ultimately have to give more weight to his deeds and the overarching political philosophy that he appears to have shared with those in power than to the assuring words that he provided me in our meeting. The bottom line is this: I will be voting against John Roberts' nomination."

    "While I certainly believe that Judge Samuel Alito has the training and the qualifications necessary to serve as a Supreme Court Justice,after a careful review of his record, I simply cannot vote for his nomination."

    "I will be supporting the filibuster because I think Judge Alito, in fact, is somebody who is contrary to core American values, not just liberal values,"

    - Senator Barack Obama

    "The President's supporters insist vehemently that, having won the 1984 election, he has every right to try to change the Court's direction. Yes, but the Democrats won the 1986 election, regaining control of the Senate, and they have every right to resist."

    - New York Times, 1987



  4. Melvin Waldron
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    43 posts
    2/17/2016 12:02 PM
    Clay Putnam, CGCS said: "There is absolutely no doubt in my mind Judge Roberts is qualified to sit on the highest court in the land. Moreover, he seems to have the comportment and the temperament that makes for a good judge. He is humble, he is personally decent, and he appears to be respectful of different points of view. It is absolutely clear to me that Judge Roberts truly loves the law. He couldn't have achieved his excellent record as an advocate before the Supreme Court without that passion for the law..."

    "I ultimately have to give more weight to his deeds and the overarching political philosophy that he appears to have shared with those in power than to the assuring words that he provided me in our meeting. The bottom line is this: I will be voting against John Roberts' nomination."

    "While I certainly believe that Judge Samuel Alito has the training and the qualifications necessary to serve as a Supreme Court Justice,after a careful review of his record, I simply cannot vote for his nomination."

    "I will be supporting the filibuster because I think Judge Alito, in fact, is somebody who is contrary to core American values, not just liberal values,"

    - Senator Barack Obama

    "The President's supporters insist vehemently that, having won the 1984 election, he has every right to try to change the Court's direction. Yes, but the Democrats won the 1986 election, regaining control of the Senate, and they have every right to resist."

    - New York Times, 1987


    Difference is, the people still were installed on the court. They were still presented to the Senate. The former Senator, now President did his Constitutional duty despite making a political statement and vote, (something he might have been able to do as Justice Roberts might have received enough votes to get confirmed, while I disagree with the political posturing, I know it is done on both sides to protect their seats), just as President Bush did his Constitutional duty.

    Senator McConnell and the Senators running for President don't even want President Obama to put forward a name.

    Mel

    Melvin H. Waldron III, CGCS, Horton Smith Golf Course, City of Springfield/Greene County MO

  5. Melvin Waldron
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    43 posts
    2/17/2016 12:02 PM
    Ronald Kirkman said: Mel;

    You must remember, Mr. Obama taught the Republicans about the Constitution.

    I will guarantee you this - Either Obama will make his pick now or when the next President is elected, which will be Bernie or Hillary - well, he/she will make the pick. Either a Democratic Socialist or a Democrat will make the pick. No big deal, we win either way.

    Capt. Kirk
    Retired Alien
    Needham Golf Club
    Needham, MA


    Yes Madam President can name the former President, and with the Senate back in Democratic hands due to the ouster of the Republican Senators who went along with Turtleman, (I'm sorry I meant Senator McConnell), we are golden.

    Mel

    Melvin H. Waldron III, CGCS, Horton Smith Golf Course, City of Springfield/Greene County MO

  6. Clay Putnam
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    33 posts
    2/17/2016 1:02 PM
    Melvin Waldron, CGCS said:
    Clay Putnam, CGCS said: "There is absolutely no doubt in my mind Judge Roberts is qualified to sit on the highest court in the land. Moreover, he seems to have the comportment and the temperament that makes for a good judge. He is humble, he is personally decent, and he appears to be respectful of different points of view. It is absolutely clear to me that Judge Roberts truly loves the law. He couldn't have achieved his excellent record as an advocate before the Supreme Court without that passion for the law..."

    "I ultimately have to give more weight to his deeds and the overarching political philosophy that he appears to have shared with those in power than to the assuring words that he provided me in our meeting. The bottom line is this: I will be voting against John Roberts' nomination."

    "While I certainly believe that Judge Samuel Alito has the training and the qualifications necessary to serve as a Supreme Court Justice,after a careful review of his record, I simply cannot vote for his nomination."

    "I will be supporting the filibuster because I think Judge Alito, in fact, is somebody who is contrary to core American values, not just liberal values,"

    - Senator Barack Obama

    "The President's supporters insist vehemently that, having won the 1984 election, he has every right to try to change the Court's direction. Yes, but the Democrats won the 1986 election, regaining control of the Senate, and they have every right to resist."

    - New York Times, 1987


    Difference is, the people still were installed on the court. They were still presented to the Senate. The former Senator, now President did his Constitutional duty despite making a political statement and vote, (something he might have been able to do as Justice Roberts might have received enough votes to get confirmed, while I disagree with the political posturing, I know it is done on both sides to protect their seats), just as President Bush did his Constitutional duty.

    Senator McConnell and the Senators running for President don't even want President Obama to put forward a name.

    Mel


    There is absolutely no difference. A justice will be confirmed. Perhaps not your or the dems favored timeline but a nominee will be seated. Your assertion that constitutional duties will be skirted is incorrect.



  7. Melvin Waldron
    Melvin Waldron avatar
    43 posts
    2/17/2016 3:02 PM
    Clay Putnam, CGCS said:
    Melvin Waldron, CGCS said:
    Clay Putnam, CGCS said: "There is absolutely no doubt in my mind Judge Roberts is qualified to sit on the highest court in the land. Moreover, he seems to have the comportment and the temperament that makes for a good judge. He is humble, he is personally decent, and he appears to be respectful of different points of view. It is absolutely clear to me that Judge Roberts truly loves the law. He couldn't have achieved his excellent record as an advocate before the Supreme Court without that passion for the law..."

    "I ultimately have to give more weight to his deeds and the overarching political philosophy that he appears to have shared with those in power than to the assuring words that he provided me in our meeting. The bottom line is this: I will be voting against John Roberts' nomination."

    "While I certainly believe that Judge Samuel Alito has the training and the qualifications necessary to serve as a Supreme Court Justice,after a careful review of his record, I simply cannot vote for his nomination."

    "I will be supporting the filibuster because I think Judge Alito, in fact, is somebody who is contrary to core American values, not just liberal values,"

    - Senator Barack Obama

    "The President's supporters insist vehemently that, having won the 1984 election, he has every right to try to change the Court's direction. Yes, but the Democrats won the 1986 election, regaining control of the Senate, and they have every right to resist."

    - New York Times, 1987


    Difference is, the people still were installed on the court. They were still presented to the Senate. The former Senator, now President did his Constitutional duty despite making a political statement and vote, (something he might have been able to do as Justice Roberts might have received enough votes to get confirmed, while I disagree with the political posturing, I know it is done on both sides to protect their seats), just as President Bush did his Constitutional duty.

    Senator McConnell and the Senators running for President don't even want President Obama to put forward a name.

    Mel


    There is absolutely no difference. A justice will be confirmed. Perhaps not your or the dems favored timeline but a nominee will be seated. Your assertion that constitutional duties will be skirted is incorrect.


    Well it depends if Senator McConnell refuses to even hold hearings, that would be skirting their Constitutional duties. If they hold the hearings on a nominee, then the Constitution will not be skirted, but if they do not sit a nominee before the elections the Republicans (especially in the Senate, the House where things are so gerrymander a rock could win as long as it had an R or a D behind its name), are taking one heck of a chance when a Presidential election will bring out the most independent and democratic voters, especially if the justice nominated was a middle of the road person. And guess what might get them all unseated, Citizens United, now that is what I would call Karma.

    What I think might happen is the Senate Republicans stall past their primary dates, so they don't get beat from their right for siding with the President, then depending on the nominee, they will get the person confirmed before the general election.

    Mel

    Melvin H. Waldron III, CGCS, Horton Smith Golf Course, City of Springfield/Greene County MO

  8. Sean Hoolehan
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    0 posts
    2/18/2016 10:02 AM
    Mel,

    I don't have a problem with President Obama nominating someone and i don't have a real problem if the Senate does or does not approve the nomination. That's the system. It is unfortunate that then Senator Obama filibustered Sam Alito's nomination. It sort of makes him look like a hypocrite now.



  9. Melvin Waldron
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    43 posts
    2/18/2016 11:02 AM
    Sean Hoolehan, CGCS said: Mel,

    I don't have a problem with President Obama nominating someone and i don't have a real problem if the Senate does or does not approve the nomination. That's the system. It is unfortunate that then Senator Obama filibustered Sam Alito's nomination. It sort of makes him look like a hypocrite now.


    And he as acknowledged and accepted as much. For most politicians one can always go back and find hypocritical statements. just like many Republican Senators have been shown to be hypocritical on the same subject, check out Senator Grassly from Iowa. The real problem is we the voters aren't holding any of them accountable.

    Mel

    Melvin H. Waldron III, CGCS, Horton Smith Golf Course, City of Springfield/Greene County MO

  10. Sandy Clark
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    0 posts
    2/18/2016 12:02 PM
    Let Obama do his thing and then refuse to give the radical leftist he selects a hearing. He will select a black female who is very liberal and will try to turn it into a racial thing. That is my solution as well as prediction. I want someone either on the conservative side or at least middle of the road. Scalia was one of the best Justices because of his incredible knowledge as well as understanding what the Constitution really means. He was not against as many things as he has been accused of, he simply felt many were the states responsibility and not the Supreme Court making Federal decisions impacting what should be state decisions. A true giant. Don't want legislating from the bench.



  11. Keith Lamb
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    3 posts
    2/18/2016 1:02 PM
    [url=http://s520.photobucket.com/user/alohakane123/media/McConnell%20vs%20McConnell_zpsozzl9ctz.jpg.html">[img">http://i520.photobucket.com/albums/w327/alohakane123/McConnell%20vs%20McConnell_zpsozzl9ctz.jpg[/img">



  12. Clay Putnam
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    33 posts
    2/18/2016 3:02 PM
    Keith Lamb said: [url=http://s520.photobucket.com/user/alohakane123/media/McConnell%20vs%20McConnell_zpsozzl9ctz.jpg.html">[img">http://i520.photobucket.com/albums/w327/alohakane123/McConnell%20vs%20McConnell_zpsozzl9ctz.jpg[/img">


    That man hasn't aged a day.



  13. Keith Lamb
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    3 posts
    2/18/2016 4:02 PM
    Clay Putnam, CGCS said:
    Keith Lamb said: [url=http://s520.photobucket.com/user/alohakane123/media/McConnell%20vs%20McConnell_zpsozzl9ctz.jpg.html">[img">http://i520.photobucket.com/albums/w327/alohakane123/McConnell%20vs%20McConnell_zpsozzl9ctz.jpg[/img">


    That man hasn't aged a day.



    How about this guy?

    [url=http://s520.photobucket.com/user/alohakane123/media/6DED4BF1-FCA8-4270-9164-FC2BE2B1A3B5_zpsy9ctqzhd.jpg.html">[img">http://i520.photobucket.com/albums/w327/alohakane123/6DED4BF1-FCA8-4270-9164-FC2BE2B1A3B5_zpsy9ctqzhd.jpg[/img">



  14. Clay Putnam
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    33 posts
    2/18/2016 5:02 PM
    Keith Lamb said:
    Clay Putnam, CGCS said:
    Keith Lamb said: [url=http://s520.photobucket.com/user/alohakane123/media/McConnell%20vs%20McConnell_zpsozzl9ctz.jpg.html">[img">http://i520.photobucket.com/albums/w327/alohakane123/McConnell%20vs%20McConnell_zpsozzl9ctz.jpg[/img">


    That man hasn't aged a day.



    How about this guy?

    [url=http://s520.photobucket.com/user/alohakane123/media/6DED4BF1-FCA8-4270-9164-FC2BE2B1A3B5_zpsy9ctqzhd.jpg.html">[img">http://i520.photobucket.com/albums/w327/alohakane123/6DED4BF1-FCA8-4270-9164-FC2BE2B1A3B5_zpsy9ctqzhd.jpg[/img">


    Ralph hasn't aged a day either. He looked the exact same in high school.



  15. Trevor Monreal
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    5 posts
    2/19/2016 1:02 PM
    Clay Putnam, CGCS said:
    There is absolutely no difference. A justice will be confirmed. Perhaps not your or the dems favored timeline but a nominee will be seated. Your assertion that constitutional duties will be skirted is incorrect.

    Not only that...but the congress could pass an act stating there only needs to be 7 or 8 justices on the court.
    Totally constitutional.

    Sandy Clark, CGCS said: Let Obama do his thing and then refuse to give the radical leftist he selects a hearing. He will select a black female who is very liberal and will try to turn it into a racial thing. That is my solution as well as prediction...

    Sounds about right. Although, I wouldn't be surprised if the president nominated Eric Holder.

    Both sides are going to pay a price over this (with the right paying more because of media bias).
    The only way to avoid this and minimize the partisanship in Washington would be for the president to defer and make the election a referendum on this nomination.
    FAT CHANCE!



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