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  1. Keith Fellenstein
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    11/8/2012 11:11 AM
    Did I miss something? Maddow says the Dems gave the GOP a real "shellacking" and Biden interprets the results of the election as a "mandate". I suppose as bad as the country is now, and the GOP couldn't make headway, certainly says something, but from the cheap seats, I don't see where either party could walk away thinking this election was anything near a "mandate" or "shellacking". It certainly should be an eye-opener for the GOP, but not anything like four years ago.



  2. Steven Huffstutler
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    11/8/2012 2:11 PM
    I think the Koch Bros took a financial whipping and I'm pretty sure Karl Rove has some questions to answer.

    Regards,

    Steve



  3. Melvin Waldron
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    11/8/2012 4:11 PM
    Keith, they may be a little giddy, but of course I think they look back at 2010 and when the right was talking or was it the left, that there was a shellacking the Democrats took that year.

    What we need to do as citizens is remind them they need to work together for us, or someone is getting a shellacking again in 2014.

    Mel

    Melvin H. Waldron III, CGCS, Horton Smith Golf Course, City of Springfield/Greene County MO

  4. Steven Huffstutler
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    11/9/2012 5:11 AM
    Just for the sake of argument:

    Obama's win was bigger than John Kennedy's in 1960 (303 electoral votes, popular vote margin of 112,827), bigger than Richard Nixon's in 1968 (301 electoral votes, popular vote plurlaity of 512,000), bigger than Jimmy Carter's in 1976 (297 electoral votes, popular vote margin of 1,683,247), bigger than George W. Bush's in 2000 (271 electoral votes and a popular vote loss of 543,816).

    Karl Rove attempted to suggest Tuesday night that Obama's victory was diminished by the fact that the president did not improve on his 2008 numbers, and recalled that some presidents (Ronald Reagan, Bill Clinton) have done so. But he failed to note how over the past century, many presidents have stumbled in their bids for second terms, including: George H.W. Bush (defeated in 1992), Jimmy Carter (defeated in 1976), Lyndon Johnson (decided not to seek re-election bid after 1968 primary setbacks), Harry Truman (decided not to seek re-election after 1952 primary setbacks), Herbert Hoover (defeated in 1932 re-election bid), Woodrow Wilson (won by narrower margin in 1916 than in 1912) and William Howard Taft (ran third in 1912 re-election bid).

    Significantly, Rove's man, George W. Bush won his 2004 re-election run with just 286 electoral votes, and faced serious challenges to the result in the state that put him across the 270 line: Ohio.

    Never mind, Bush claimed a broad mandate.



  5. Trevor Monreal
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    11/10/2012 4:11 PM
    From how I see it, republicans/conservatives got their BUTTS KICKED.
    With all that has happened the last four years including the election of 2010, this election should not have even been close.
    I think I'm going to move to California, get a union job building the train to nowhere, retire (having some poor schlub making 40+grand/yr (superintendent) help pay my six figure retirement), while learning to love a sustainable existence.



  6. Melvin Waldron
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    11/10/2012 5:11 PM
    Florida was finally called for the president, I guess it was a shellacking?

    Mel

    Melvin H. Waldron III, CGCS, Horton Smith Golf Course, City of Springfield/Greene County MO

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