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am I asking too much

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  1. Jeremy Hreben
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    4/26/2016 10:04 AM
    I have an assistant. He is older than me. He was a former superintendent, be it in over his head in that position. He is a great worker, has an awesome construction background. Only formal education is in landscape something or other. I am lenient with him taking time off due to the fact that sometimes we work long hours. More lenient than anyone was with me. My issue is contacting him after hours. Sometimes I want to bat ideas off him or go over the plan for the future. Sometimes I want to check in to see what got accomplished. I respect his time off and never call him in off duty. I don't think talking off duty is a big deal. When I was an assistant I always answered my bosses calls or at least called back as soon as i could.

    Am I asking too much? Am I wrong?



  2. Larry Allan
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    4/26/2016 11:04 AM
    My assistant hangs up on me if I call or talk shop after hours.

    Still he's a great assistant, just has his limits



  3. Sean Hoolehan
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    4/26/2016 12:04 PM
    First I would simply ask him if he minds getting your calls after hours.See what his idea of work boundaries are.

    Other things I would consider.Do you pay for his cell phone? If not then i would limit calls period. Do you pay him salary or by the hour? If by the hour you could be responsible for paying him during these calls. Text him to call you at [u">his[/u"> convince.

    My guess is he will want to be included in your planning process as long as expectations are clear.

    Good Luck



  4. Steven Huffstutler
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    4/26/2016 12:04 PM
    Jeremy, everybody needs a break from work, even you.

    Steve



  5. Jeremy Hreben
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    4/26/2016 1:04 PM
    Thanks guys for your advice.
    Steve, I follow your posts all the time. You may not remember me. I worked for Kevin at Wildcat Run then left to build Kings Gate. We had dinner once together with John Deere! lol



  6. Trevor Monreal
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    4/26/2016 1:04 PM
    What I like here is you are asking if your "asking too much".
    I even hate to bother my guys during their lunch.
    If it's something that can wait 'til morning why bother the guy...
    It doesn't sound like you're an insensitive @$$ so I'm sure you'll figure this out.



  7. James Schmid
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    4/26/2016 3:04 PM
    Jeremy Hreben said: I have an assistant. He is older than me. He was a former superintendent, be it in over his head in that position. He is a great worker, has an awesome construction background. Only formal education is in landscape something or other. I am lenient with him taking time off due to the fact that sometimes we work long hours. More lenient than anyone was with me. My issue is contacting him after hours. Sometimes I want to bat ideas off him or go over the plan for the future. Sometimes I want to check in to see what got accomplished. I respect his time off and never call him in off duty. I don't think talking off duty is a big deal. When I was an assistant I always answered my bosses calls or at least called back as soon as i could.

    Am I asking too much? Am I wrong?


    I came up the same way as you did, and would take work related calls at any time. As I have aged, I don't ask the same of the people that work for me, and I no longer really take work calls when I am not at work except in the case of an urgent issue. I do not call my people unless it is something that can absolutely not wait.

    Some of the topics that you suggest, such as batting around ideas or planning for the future can definitely wait in my book. I used to have that stuff on my mind all of the time, but I'm learning to leave it at work when I leave. Not always succeeding, but trying. To me time off from work is one of the keys to being productive and functional, and that time off includes the mind. So I try to make sure my people get that.

    Checking in to see what got accomplished can be achieved in different ways. I have asked my assistants to send me a daily log at the end of each day. Takes them 10 minutes to send me an email with the important points from that day.

    My assistants work 10 hour days 5 days a week year round, and they are paid for it. More hours during projects and overseeding. Thats enough, so I try my hardest to leave them alone when not at work. Helps me avoid thinking about work more than I should too.



  8. Steven Huffstutler
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    4/26/2016 3:04 PM
    Jeremy Hreben said: Thanks guys for your advice.
    Steve, I follow your posts all the time. You may not remember me. I worked for Kevin at Wildcat Run then left to build Kings Gate. We had dinner once together with John Deere! lol


    I remember. I know you are a hard worker. Work should be a healthy part of our lives but should not dominate every waking hour. Everybody deserves a break.

    Regards

    Steve



  9. Clay Putnam
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    4/27/2016 5:04 AM
    I prefer not to contact staff "after hours". I certainly understand the need to leave work at work. However, there are times when it is an absolute necessity to contact a staff member during unscheduled work hours. In the end, leave the idle shop-talk at work. Make the call if it's a necessity. Your assistant can answer the emergency call or not. You can include his willingness to accept or reject those calls in his review.



  10. Keith Lamb
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    4/27/2016 2:04 PM
    When I took my current position the GM would constantly text or call me after hours. I told him a. If he wants to use my cell phone as a primary means of communication that the company needs to pay for it.....and they do. b. I had to train him...lol.....by not answering texts that I knew could wait until tomorrow so that he would ease up. Which he has considerably. 90% of what he would text was trivial stuff. He sends me more emails for stuff like that now. We are friends so he has learned to understand after hours non-emergency stuff can wait or are better communicated through email.
    With that being said, I rarely contact my assistant after hours, he is salaried, and if I do it's just shooting him a text about something I forgot about for the next day or emergencies. A text is less intrusive than a call and they can reply to it in their own time. I value my non-work hours and try to give my employees the same respect.



  11. Max Lamas
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    4/28/2016 11:04 AM
    I will contact a staffer outside of emergencies or "no shows," only if I am certain he doesn't mind.



  12. David Brandenburg
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    4/28/2016 11:04 AM
    I would make it a point to have a end of the day conversation as part of his work day to rehash the day and plan for the next day. Then only contact him after work if there is a emergency.

    I text our assistant after work but mainly for sports, trivia and other interests we share. We have worked together 24 years and have a lot in common. If it is a day I am off and I want to know how something went I make contact before his normal work day ends.



  13. Robert Hall
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    7/15/2016 11:07 PM
    I feel you are NOT asking too much,

    Best of luck
    Yankee Bob



  14. Henry Heinz
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    7/19/2016 8:07 AM
    The Huff gets its. Plus if I worked for him we could like each others tweets and comments on Facebook while he's on one side of the course and I'm on the other. LMAO



  15. Robert Hall
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    7/19/2016 8:07 PM
    communication is one of the most important aspects of the job



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