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  1. Craig Stockhaus
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    8/14/2013 9:08 PM
    I am having trouble identifying this problem that just appeared on my greens over the weekend. The temps we have had around here in southwest Kansas have been upper 80's lower 90's, with humidity around 40-50%. I think it is either take all patch, or pythium rot dysfunction. Any help would be great.



  2. Clay Putnam
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    8/15/2013 6:08 AM
    Doesn't appear to be Take All. My experience with Take All has distinct round frogs eye patch symptoms. Overnight a sample for diagnosis.



  3. Robert Dreesen
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    8/15/2013 8:08 AM
    My guess is nematode damage.



  4. Larry Stowell
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    8/15/2013 9:08 AM
    Wow, that is an interesting symptom. The way the symptom appears on the low mown and surrounds higher cut is unusual. It means that height of cut did not change the plant response to the cause. Definitely send in a sample for diagnosis.

    What is the turf type and what fungicides have been applied in the past six weeks? With that information, we would have a pretty good idea of what disease is NOT causing the problem and then guess at a treatment without having a disease ID - but you should get a diagnosis. Here is a list of labs (top link):

    http://www.paceturf.org/index.php/public/free_stuff/



  5. Melvin Waldron
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    8/15/2013 9:08 AM
    Craig, don't know if K-State has a plant diagonstic lab, but I do know Dr. Lee Miller at the University of Missouri does have one.

    http://turfpath.missouri.edu/

    Mel

    Melvin H. Waldron III, CGCS, Horton Smith Golf Course, City of Springfield/Greene County MO

  6. Smith Kerry L
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    8/15/2013 11:08 AM
    Has the moisture level been consistent?



  7. Craig Stockhaus
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    8/15/2013 12:08 PM
    My moisture level was consistent (completely dry) until we've had the 4 inches of rain over the past 2 1/2 weeks. Believe me, I'm NOT complaining about the rain....I'm just frustrated with my greens. The only grass that it is attacking is the bentgrass. My bentgrass types are penncross and g2g6.



  8. Timothy Walker
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    8/15/2013 5:08 PM
    Doesn't look like take all - I'd venture pythium root dysfunction or wet wilt - how has the weather been after the rain hot and sunny?



  9. Andy Jorgensen
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    8/15/2013 7:08 PM
    I'm not a cool season grass grower, but when you mentioned the rain, I immediately thought of wet wilt. Not in the terms of the water scalding the grass, but more with suffocating the roots. Just my opinion.



  10. Nicholas Daak
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    8/20/2013 9:08 PM
    Pretty close to same situation here. I have fought localised dry spots every year so assumed that was the problem. But after handwatering and solid tinning consistently it has only gotten worse. Concluded it was Take All, results still pending.



  11. Keith Pegg
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    8/21/2013 12:08 AM
    rain+hot+end of summer+bent= pythium

    Keith



  12. Robert Donofrio
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    7/14/2014 1:07 AM
    Look at the damage first thing in the morning and check for a dark mycelium around the edges....should look like grey cotton candy=Pythium!



  13. Kenneth Rue
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    7/15/2014 3:07 PM
    Craig:

    3 guesses on this end.

    1. Pythium root rot dysfunction which would entail a drench using Koban
    2. Overuse of DMI's
    3. Ataenius spretulus (nasty little larvaes)

    Kenneth B.Rue
    RF



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