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Is Racism Out of Control?

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  1. Sandy Clark
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    7/19/2013 10:07 AM
    I am really disturbed with what I see and hear in the press involving the Zimmerman verdict and how racism is being thrown around. It appears the press has a huge and dirty fingerprint in how things are being portrayed. I don't think anyone believes that the Martin, Zimmerman thing was anything but bad. Both guys did really stupid things and unfortunately, a 17 year old died. At first, all you heard was Martin being profiled. The press was quick to put on all the black leaders that were calling it murder and referencing racism. At no time were any of these politicians or talking heads quizzed about the basis for the claims. Leading up to the trial, it appeared the press was way to anxious to pick sides and continued to bring in the loudest accusers. Of course the race hucksters like Sharpton and Jackson were front and center and naturally, leading marches screaming about blacks being profiled and gunned down. When it was determined that Zimmerman was hispanic, he suddenly became a white hispanic? Never heard of that one before. After the verdict came about, the press has gone into overdrive trying to emphasize the protests against the verdict. A jury decided the case on the evidence presented. The prosecutor and the defense selected the jury. I have heard all the reasons why the decision was wrong and all the efforts to go after Zimmerman further, none of which are based on the jury and evidence. We all know that some racism still exists but doesn't it seem like now everything is being classified as racism? What do we as American citizens do to bring sanity back to this discussion. I think the President has commented two or three times over his 2 terms and unfortunately stirred the pot based on emotion. The Attorney General obviously has been controversial on how anything involving race is handled. For starters, I wish the political types would just shut up until all the facts have been decided by a jury. I also wish the press would question everything and avoid all appearances of having an agenda. My biggest wish is the press would ignore the race hucksters like Sharpton and others that appear to have a financial agenda. Our country will never get away from this unless we stop the accusation. I feel we are becoming less of a color blind society and see that as a very bad thing. Am I way off base on how I see things? I would love to hear other thoughts. When the facts show that 93% of blacks that have been murdered have over the past several years have been killed by other blacks, the statistics just don't appear to support the racism claims. Help me out here. Thanks



  2. Melvin Waldron
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    7/19/2013 10:07 AM
    Sandy,

    I think it is hard for most of us to really discuss the race issue due to our currcumstances. I certainly don't have the insight that the black community deals with, and really can't comprehend how any minority group feels.

    I do believe Zimmerman profiled Martin, just by listening to the dispatcher tapes, was it because he was black? was it because he had a hoodie and maybe looked like a thug was young, maybe his race didn't play a part in it?

    I heard an interesting comment on Imus the other morning driving into work, it seems (as I understood it, didn't get a lot of time to listen), one of the kids that had attended his ranch for kids with cancer, ended up loosing his parents, Don and Dedira adopted him and he is now attending college somewhere in Texas. Don said he is more worried about him as he walks around towns then he is about his natural son Wyatt. Why is he worried? This young man is black. That tells me we have more to do about race relations, both sides have much work to do, and I think a bunch of it is cultural.

    As for the trial itself, I don't agree with the verdict, Zimmerman's actions put him and Martin in danger, in one regard, home come people don't say Martin was "Standing His Ground" and defending himself? When that happened and Martin overpowered Zimmerman, (if that is what really happened, and evidence seems to maybe suggest it) Zimmerman then seemed to have to defend himself, and then I can kind of understand the jury's verdict, or the resonable doubt thing. If only Zimmerman would have listened and stayed in his vehicle.

    Just my opinion and two cents.

    Mel

    Melvin H. Waldron III, CGCS, Horton Smith Golf Course, City of Springfield/Greene County MO

  3. Ronald Kirkman
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    7/22/2013 5:07 PM
    Sandy,

    Good question and good topic. Too bad I can not answer it. A few things I will say - how about Antonio West a 13 month old child shot at point blank range by two African American teens who were attemting to rob his mother who was also shot. A Grand Jury of his mothers peers from Brunswick, GA determined the teens who murdered him will not face the death penalty. Too bad the child was given a death sentence for being innocent and defenseless.

    His family made the mistake of being white in a 73% non - white neighborhood, but his murder was not condsidered a hate crime. Nor did President Obama so much as a single moment to acknowledge his murder. He was one of the youngest murder victims in our Nations history. The media doesn't care to cover the story of his tragic demise because his story is not interesting enough to bring them ratings so they can sell commercial time slots.

    There is not a white equivalent of Al Sharpton because if there was he would be declared racist, so there is no rushing to Brunswick, GA to demand justice for him. There is no White Panther party to put a bounty on the lives of those who murdered him. He has no voice, no representtion and unlike those who shot him in the face while he sat innocently in his stroller - he no longer has his life.

    While you are seeking justice for Tryvon, remember to seek justice for this little boy.

    In Boston, an African American tried to rob a couple milliom dollars from the Boston Fund that was going to the victims of the bombings. In NY an African American Woman robbed the fund of Four hundred thousand dollars. Fortuneately both were caught and the money was returned. These people should be put away along with the terrorists. That's it for now.

    Capt. Kirk
    Retired Alien
    Needham Golf Club
    Needham, MA



  4. Chris Wiedenmeyer
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    7/22/2013 7:07 PM
    Very well said Ron.

    There is however a white equivalent to Al Sharpton, it is the Klan. They are viewed as radical and racist for their thoughts but he is not. I am in no way condoning their actions at all.



  5. Sandy Clark
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    7/23/2013 9:07 AM
    I was thinking about Mel's comment about Trayvon Martin being profiled by Zimmerman. Profiling has become a completely misused term in the world of race relations. We all profile everyone all the time! If your wife is in a bad mood, you profile her to determine what is ok to say and what isn't. We profile every driver near us on the freeway but that is just routine defensive driving. In a sporting event, we profile our competitor to try and get a competitive edge. Profiling is based on tons of factors and yes, race can certainly be one of them. Profiling is merely trying to figure out what the other person may be thinking or is up to. Had Martin's parents told him to not take a shortcut through a gate guarded community and he followed their orders, no meeting would have ever taken place. Had martin merely kept going home, no confrontation would have taken place. Had he simply asked Zimmerman why he was checking him out, Zimmerman may have explained that he didn't recognize him as a resident in the community and reminded him it was gate guarded and he should go around. So many things went wrong but many are Trayvon Martins fault as well. It is still horrible that a young man was killed. He was a big kid with supposed MMA skills and unfortunately chose to jump bad on Zimmerman rather than just acting friendly! Did Zimmerman handle things terribly wrong? Absolutely. How do these mistakes by both parties become racism?

    I think it is time that the race hustlers all be challenged every time they jump to conclusions and try to stir up trouble. It is not open season on black people. Unfortunately, numbers show they are killing each other in very high numbers. The so called black leaders need to address the multiple problems that exist. Things will not get better until education is a priority and generational welfare is corrected.



  6. Melvin Waldron
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    7/23/2013 3:07 PM
    Sandy is correct on profiling, I'm pretty sure teenagers get profiled, so was Zimmerman profiling because of his age, his clothing, or his race? Could be a combanation of all three.

    Didn't Martin's father live in the gated community? I thought so, maybe someone can varify?

    I will support those standing in protest, it is their first admendment right. I would hope Sharpton never has to stand up for my rights, I would ask him to not, but I guess the networking connections that he has helps. If I was MSNBC, I would ask him to take leave from his show if he is going to go to these protests.

    Whites as a race have over 200 years of some bad behaviour, ask the native americans who were run from their homes, africans who were brought here as slaves, I know we have tried to make things better, right our wrongs, but it does take time and also opportunites. That is why we are crazy cutting government spending on education and job creation, especially infrastructure, we could be putting people back to work, keep people in schools, teach them skills, by doing this it doesn't give them idle time, same problem in the middle east in my opinion, lack of education and opportunities, those countries that seem to have education and opportunities thrive and don't create trouble. Of course that is the simple answer and I know it is more complex then that. (and spell check still doesn't work)

    Mel

    Melvin H. Waldron III, CGCS, Horton Smith Golf Course, City of Springfield/Greene County MO

  7. Steven Huffstutler
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    7/24/2013 7:07 AM
    This is a copy of a letter sent by local Sherrif Mike Scott to the NAACP after being invited to speak at a banquet. He was, naturally, immediately labelled a racist.



    Lee County Sheriffs Respsone to the NAACP

    LEE COUNTY SHERIFF MIKE SCOTT'S LETTER TO THE LOCAL CHAPTER OF THE NAACP BELOW. *note: ABC7 edited out his reference to racial slurs.

    Dear President Muwakkil:

    I have been invited to the NAACP Freedom Fund Awards Banquet and have been asked to sponsor the event financially. I will not be doing either but wanted to explain my concerns and the reasons for my decision. Frankly, I believe the NAACP locally and nationally loses credibility when it picks and chooses which issues it rallies around and embraces what often appears to be a double standard relative to race and ethnicity. I am citing two (2) local and recent examples of my concern.

    Tragically, record numbers of young, black males have been gunned down in the streets of Fort Myers in an epidemic of alarming proportions over the last few years. In virtually every instance the killer was also black and the majority of those cases remain open. Many more black citizens have been injured and were lucky to survive similar circumstances. To date, I am unaware of any appreciable attention or public outcry the NAACP locally or nationally have afforded these issues in our own, proverbial backyard.

    Conversely, you immediately inserted yourself and the Lee County Branch in the matter of Trayvon Martin's tragic death in a city hours from ours and publically declared that matter to have been mishandled by the police while expressing your intention to travel to Sanford sporting a "hoodie." I suspect that when you said that, you had not examined any of the evidence or specifics of the incident; and I am certain you would not have reacted that way had George Zimmerman been black or Trayvon Martin white.

    The fact is that Zimmerman is half Latino (Peruvian mother) but was portrayed early on by media and others as being "white." That seemed to fit better for a "white/black" contrast much like the media altering of the 911 recordings helped fan the flames of racism early on. Ironically, President Obama is half white but is generally referred to as being "black" and so there appears to be an inclination among some to insert ethnicity as it fits with their agenda.

    Fast forward to the trial and verdict which resulted in Zimmerman's acquittal…the same trial, verdict, and in fact justice system that you would have applauded had it convicted him. A leading cause of death for young, black males across our nation is murder and an astounding percentage is being murdered by young, black males. The noticeable lack of involvement and attention given those tragedies by the NAACP begs the question why in my mind. Black on black and black on white seem to illicit far less emotion than the proportionately occasional white on black examples like Zimmerman - who as noted earlier is actually only as "white" as President Obama.

    Finally, I find your resurrected fixation with the portrait of Robert E. Lee and the demand for its removal regrettable. The timing so proximate to the Zimmerman race baiting is certainly suspect. While I am not black, I continue to be amazed by what is deemed "racially offensive and/or insensitive" and what is not. For example, the rampant use of the word "n****r" [this is an ABC7 edit] in the wildly popular hip-hop culture that floods the ears of youth across this nation and is comprised primarily of black artists apparently stirs little to no emotion among blacks but the portrait of General Lee does? I am fifty (50) years old, and I have heard more black people (including top, black comedians being funny) utter the word "n****r" [this is an ABC7 edit] in my lifetime than I could have ever fathomed. I continue to wonder why the NAACP does not publicly decry this trend and advocate its cessation. It is for these reasons that I feel your focus on the Lee portrait amounts to little more than unrealistic posturing that serves to further a divide and promote a double standard. After all sir; our county is named after General Robert E. Lee and his portrait is far from the only reference to him, so I am left to wonder where this agenda stops.

    I consider you a friend and hope my candor does not ruin that; however, I simply find myself unable to support your professional agenda, which I believe actually contradicts the end goal of eliminating double standards.

    Warm regards,

    Sheriff Mike Scott



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