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  1. Wahlin Scott B
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  2. Wahlin Scott B
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    12/3/2011 7:12 AM
    "I'm so scared of this anti-Wall Street effort. I'm frightened to death. They're having an impact on what the American people think of capitalism." -- Frank Luntz, Republican Strategist, The Republican Governors Association this week in Florida



  3. Steven Kurta
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    12/8/2011 6:12 AM
    [youtube">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0PAJNntoRgA[/youtube">



  4. Wahlin Scott B
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  5. Wahlin Scott B
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    12/9/2011 11:12 AM
    [youtube">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=al4ctc41IIE[/youtube">



  6. Wahlin Scott B
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    12/11/2011 3:12 PM
    Early in the Eisenhower Administration, Americans paid 92% of every dollar earned over $1,693,431 (Adjusted for Inflation) to the IRS. If Obama proposed this kind of tax he would be called a Communist. Was Ike ever called a Communist?



  7. McCallum David K
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    12/12/2011 8:12 AM
    Not sure, I was about 4 when the got elected.........didn't pay much attention to politcs then.



  8. Kauffman John M
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    12/12/2011 8:12 AM
    wahlins said: Early in the Eisenhower Administration, Americans paid 92% of every dollar earned over $1,693,431 (Adjusted for Inflation) to the IRS. If Obama proposed this kind of tax he would be called a Communist. Was Ike ever called a Communist?


    Althought the top marginal rate fell only 1% during Ike's administration, he did deliver 3 balanced budgets. I don't think Obama has come anywhere close to doing that.

    During the Eisenhower administration, we didn't have things like affordable personal computers, accessible internet, large flat screen TVs, or such "luxuries" like widespread central air conditioning, microwaves, VCRs, DVD players, or cell phone. Even personal wired phone lines weren't ubiquitous, as party lines were common.

    According to the National Poverty Center (npc.umich.edu), 22.4% of the American population was in poverty during the Eisenhower Administration. In 2010, 15.1% of Americans lived in poverty, which had increased from an all-time low of 11.3% in 2000.

    As taxes got lower for the upper incomes, standard of living increased for ALL income levels and the poverty rate dropped.

    Why would we want to go back to policies that held back innovation and increased poverty?



  9. Wahlin Scott B
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    12/12/2011 1:12 PM
    jkauffm1 said: Why would we want to go back to policies that held back innovation and increased poverty?


    So the reason we have air conditioning is because of low taxes on billionaires?



  10. Kauffman John M
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    12/12/2011 3:12 PM
    wahlins said:
    jkauffm1 said: Why would we want to go back to policies that held back innovation and increased poverty?


    So the reason we have air conditioning is because of low taxes on billionaires?


    Did I ever post a linkto some essays by the French economist Frederic Bastiat? If I have not, you can browse some of his work here: http://www.econlib.org/library/Bastiat/basEss1.html

    One of Bastiat's most famous lines goes like this: There is only one difference between a bad economist and a good one: the bad economist confines himself to the visible effect; the good economist takes into account both the effect that can be seen and those effects that must be foreseen.

    Low taxes on upper incomes didn't directly give us air conditioning -- the technology was first produced in 1902. But, lower taxes (lower than the Eisenhower tax rates) gave incentive and ability to enterprising folks to produce this technology more cheaply and efficiently, which made it available to a wider range of the population.

    In short, excessively high taxes provide incentive for investors and entreprenuers to do things with their money other than putting it to work where it may be taxed. Decreasing the cost of business encourages innovation and investment, which puts people to work and produces things that increase their standard of living, like air conditioning.

    Funny, though, that you didn't mention anything about how poverty was nearly twice as high when the top marginal tax rate was higher ....



  11. Wahlin Scott B
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    12/12/2011 3:12 PM
    Many Tea Party types say they miss the 50's because it was before the entitlement generation.



  12. Kauffman John M
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    12/12/2011 4:12 PM
    Many people also think that all a golf course superintendent does is mow grass and turn on sprinklers. I once heard a club president say that "grass even grows in the cracks in the sidewalk -- how hard can it be?!"

    If we don't learn from history, we will be doomed to repeat our past mistakes.

    Let's look at what really happened, not just how it may have felt.

    For too many people, the world began with their birth and extends no farther than the end of their nose.



  13. Melvin Waldron
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    12/12/2011 5:12 PM
    jkauffm1 said: If we don't learn from history, we will be doomed to repeat our past mistakes.


    Let's look at what really happened, not just how it may have felt.

    For too many people, the world began with their birth and extends no farther than the end of their nose.


    JK, didn't we learn from the eight years of Bush?

    While I agree we shouldn't be going back to the tax rates of the 50's, the tax rates of the 2000's didn't do much for us either. There has to be a balance of revenues vs. spending.

    Mel

    Melvin H. Waldron III, CGCS, Horton Smith Golf Course, City of Springfield/Greene County MO

  14. McCallum David K
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    12/13/2011 7:12 AM
    Returning to the 50's, since I remember them better than some, is not high on my priorty list but I would gladly pass on the entitlement generation. What redeeming values have they contributed to our society?



  15. Wahlin Scott B
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    12/13/2011 7:12 AM
    McCallum said: Returning to the 50's, since I remember them better than some, is not high on my priorty list but I would gladly pass on the entitlement generation. What redeeming values have they contributed to our society?


    I was thinking that those government programs may have contributed to the reduction in the poverty level.



  16. McCallum David K
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    12/13/2011 9:12 AM
    You could be right but do not believe since the start of the Great Society and the War on Poverty that the poverty rate has fallen. But then again if I agreed with you, we'd both be wrong.



  17. Wahlin Scott B
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    12/13/2011 12:12 PM
    McCallum said: You could be right but do not believe since the start of the Great Society and the War on Poverty that the poverty rate has fallen. But then again if I agreed with you, we'd both be wrong.


    I believe this graph shows that the Great Society has had a lasting influence over the % of Americans experiencing poverty and that the Republicans were firmly in control in the years leading up to the Great Recession.

    [img">http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll284/scottcgcs/povertytimelinewithleadersB.jpg[/img">



  18. Kauffman John M
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    12/13/2011 2:12 PM
    wahlins said:
    McCallum said: You could be right but do not believe since the start of the Great Society and the War on Poverty that the poverty rate has fallen. But then again if I agreed with you, we'd both be wrong.


    I believe this graph shows that the Great Society has had a lasting influence over the % of Americans experiencing poverty and that the Republicans were firmly in control in the years leading up to the Great Recession.

    [img">http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll284/scottcgcs/povertytimelinewithleadersB.jpg[/img">


    I appreciate the data, Scott. Let me give a few thoughts:

    1) Number in poverty data is irrelevant and misleading -- its only used to stoke emotion
    % in poverty is only data needed
    2) All increases in poverty (except for one) occur when democrats control two of the three criteria
    at the bottom of the graph: house, senate, predident
    3) Steepest increases in poverty occur when democrats control senate and house

    Perhaps a more important point is whether this data is important at all. Poverty is certainly an emotional issue, but, as we learned when the 2010 poverty numbers were releaed not too long ago, poverty is merely a definition, not an indicator of standard of living. The Census Bureau poverty threshold also excludes transfer payments and government assistance, such as unemployment, welfare, medicare and medicaid, and tax credits in excess of tax liability (getting back more than you paid in). The Census Bureau stated that although the poverty threshold for a family of four in the US in 2010 was $22,314; the average income of those families (government aid + income) was $40,451; which elevated the income of the average poverty family over those who were not in poverty.



  19. McCallum David K
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    12/14/2011 6:12 AM
    Good points JK and as I told Scott, I'd agree with him but then we'd both be wrong.



  20. Wahlin Scott B
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  21. Steven Kurta
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    12/25/2011 12:12 PM
    GLASS HOUSES



  22. Wahlin Scott B
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    12/29/2011 5:12 PM
    [img">http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll284/scottcgcs/new-jesus.jpg[/img">



  23. Wahlin Scott B
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    12/29/2011 5:12 PM
    AR15 with a 7 inch barrel and no flash hider:

    [img">http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll284/scottcgcs/AR157innoflashhider.jpg[/img">



  24. Wahlin Scott B
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    12/30/2011 10:12 PM
    Getting Misty Eyed Over the end of 2011

    [img">http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll284/scottcgcs/2011mistyeyed.jpg[/img">



  25. Steven Kurta
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    1/21/2012 8:01 AM
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  26. Steven Kurta
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    1/24/2012 12:01 AM
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  27. Wahlin Scott B
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    3/10/2012 9:03 AM
    Educated Snobs, among other things!
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    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=pl ... ZK75pXLlbY[/url]



  28. Steven Kurta
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    3/12/2012 9:03 PM
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  29. Wahlin Scott B
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    3/17/2012 7:03 AM
    Hymn to Freedom: A tribute to the Civil Rights Act - Totally Cool (warning: A VIDEO!!)

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tCrrZ1NnCuM&feature=share



  30. Wahlin Scott B
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    3/18/2012 4:03 AM
    [youtube">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p0RZSAz-Ouw[/youtube">



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