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1. Elliott Steve D

   
   2/15/2012 9:02 AM

   I'm a very high played course and we put cart signs in front of our greens in the fairways and thought of putting two post on each side of the greens that are movable painted what ever color to tell people what their limits are as for cart traffic. Doing so I feel this is a little cleaner and less work for the replacement should cut some mowing time down which I feel we all know. But my boss would like to know a plan of action to retrain the customer. because I'm also public. We do have rangers. ?????????

   
   
   
   
2. Baker Daniel

   
   2/15/2012 9:02 AM

   I'd keep it as low profile as possible. The taller and larger you make a sign, the tackier it gets IMHO. We use the little signs and it does basically no good. We even roped off the right side of one of our holes from the green to the property line and they just drove over the ropes.
   
   Tell your boss that we can't train our memebership, much less any public guest that comes out. Tell the rangers to get off their glueteus maxiums and do their job

   
   
   
   
3. David Brandenburg

   

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   2/15/2012 10:02 AM

   Our rules say carts on paths where provided or 30 feet from all tees and greens. We have paths near every tee and green.
   
   We used to have 3 signs per approach, a bunch on every par 3 to try and keep them on the path and a scatter sign on the end of every path, and Marshalls who would talk to the customers all they could.
   
   Then we had about half the people following the rules and half just "forgetting" each hole and driving where they want. We got rid of almost every sign and will just use the marshalls to say "please keep the carts on the path where provided". That was 5 years ago and we have half the people doing what they want and half following the rules, but we don't have all the signs to maintain and move to mow.
   
   People are stupid, us included and do not pay attention to the signs anyway. I do not think the signs or posts are worth it in the long run.

   
   
   
   
4. Fleegel Timothy

   
   2/15/2012 10:02 AM

   We were using signs and ropes, tacky looking but fairly effective when reset everyday after the coyotes bit through the rope. We switched to painting a white line in front of the greens as a "No carts past here" line. Out starter tells people as do our marshalls, when they aren't looking for balls. It's not 100% but it works for us.

   
   
   
   
5. Nowakowski Michael J

   
   2/15/2012 10:02 AM

   We are like Tim in that we use a white painted line in front of the greens. For the most part it works quite well and does not slow down maintenance. The marshalls really like them too as they now have a definite line in which to tell people to stay behind.

   
   
   
   
6. Peter Bowman

   

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   2/15/2012 3:02 PM

   I'm with David. People don't read your signs, especially those signs trying to educate the golfer on all the good you're doing for the environment, all while looking for their golf ball in the area your sign is telling them to stay the heck out of.
   
   I read most if the road signs - stop signs, merging traffic, exit here, yield, no parking, etc. - on the way to the golf course. I'm not reading your signs once I get there.

   
   
   
   
7. Fauble Christopher

   
   2/17/2012 8:02 AM

   I currently have 4x4 posts about 4' high at my fwy exit that read "No Carts". I hate the way...very tacky and large. I am going to try something different this year. We made arrowed cart signs this winter out of pressure treated 2x6. I think I may paint a line as well. Hopefully the rangers and starters will do their jobs as well.

   
   
   
   
8. Melvin Waldron

   

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   2/17/2012 8:02 AM

   I was at a course in NJ where we painted the white line and had the small Lesco cart signs and it work pretty well. At another NJ course I was at (it was a county course), we didn't have anything out, but our rangers were pretty good about asking golfers to keep their carts on the paths, (both riding and pull carts) and the golfers were good about it.
   
   Here where I am at now, we let golfers take their carts just about anywhere, pull carts on tees, on collars, some carts end up next to collars, it would be tough to get our regular golfers to change now, we even used cart signs. I might try the white line this season and at least get those that don't play here often to follow them. We don't have rangers here so that won't help.
   
   Mel

   
   Melvin H. Waldron III, CGCS, Horton Smith Golf Course, City of Springfield/Greene County MO
   
   
9. Border Ricky H

   
   2/17/2012 8:02 AM

   On the tee end of the f-ways where players drive the most we use an X made from split rail each piece 24" long and lag screw together. Then stand up X and place one end of split on the top "crotch" of the X the other end on the ground one piece of rail to right and left. The set-up guy moves these slightly to manage the traffic patterns at the beginning of the f-ways. Functions well, looks nice because we have split rail fencing other places on property so it blends in but controls were a cart can drive. We do not use them near the greens so not to affect an approach shot. In these ares 24" green slotted stakes from standard and green rope. I feel the signs and brightly colored rope looks "K-mart" no disrespect but hope you know what I mean.
   
   
   Rick Border GCS
   Oglebay Resort
   Wheeling, WV

   
   
   
   
10. McCallum David K

    
    2/20/2012 8:02 AM

    I tend to agree with the consensus......almost impossible to control golfers and where they drive carts. They often ignore carts on the path postings after heavy rains and then plead......."oh I forgot" when confronted. We do use a painted 4x4 out in front of the greens (only one) that the fairway mowers move forward and backwards when mowing fairways. They help some, at best.

    
    
    
    
11. Steven Moulton

    

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    2/20/2012 9:02 AM

    I have always used rope and stakes in front of the greens. I have also hated it forever but for the sake of keeping carts on the path we used this method. On some of the wider approach areas we would probably use 25 or 30 stakes and a couple of signs in between. A couple of years ago we decide to try just using one stake on each end of the rope and letting the rope just lay flat on the ground and still use a sign or two. It has worked very well for us because not only does it look a lot better without having all those stakes and rope sticking up in front of the green, it has saved us countless hours of labor for the mower operators just moving rope and stakes out of the road and putting them back. Now all they have to do is grab one end the rope and jerk it out of way. I know there are still people who will cross the rope anyway but most adhere to it. With the rope and the stakes golfers step on the rope and it ends up on the ground anyway. I wished I would have use this method years ago, but live and learn I guess.
    
    Steve

    
    
    
    
12. Neidhardt John J

    
    2/20/2012 12:02 PM

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    2/20/2012 12:02 PM

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14. Casavant Gerry

    
    8/28/2012 10:08 PM

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15. Virgil Range

    

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    8/29/2012 5:08 AM

    I use these arrows that we make at the shop. Along with these I use the Par Aide Green and White Stakes. I put the Green and White stakes next to the arrow.
    Every green has these and par 3's have these to keep people on the cart part.
    
    For the majority of the time these have worked great for me. But you still get that golfer that insists to drive past them.
    
    Virgil

    
    
    
    
16. Robert Crockett

    

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    8/29/2012 6:08 AM

    We very politely WARN them and tell them very POLITELY that if we find them not in compliance again, we will take their cart away with NO refund......Works really well because they know there is a penalty that will be enforced