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1. Clay Putnam

   

   33 posts
   
   7/23/2013 4:07 AM

   OK, yet another household appliance is on the brink of being chucked. The dishwasher is the next item on the hit list. I have never purchased a dishwasher. Every home I purchased came with one and the dishwasher always outlasted us living in the home. So, what suggestions are out there? I have been told to stay away from the cheep-o versions or more commonly referred to as contractor specials ($300 - $500). That leaves the $600 versions all the way up to the $1,400 versions. Do you get what you pay for when it comes to dish washers?

   
   
   
   
2. Wahlin Scott B

   
   7/23/2013 6:07 AM

   I have a friend whose wife did not want to rinse the dishes. As a result they came out of the dishwasher dirty. He traded the dishwasher in for a more extreme model. The second dishwasher worked a lot better.

   
   
   
   
3. Andy Jorgensen

   

   1 posts
   
   7/23/2013 7:07 AM

   Scott Wahlin, CGCS said: I have a friend whose wife did not want to rinse the dishes. As a result they came out of the dishwasher dirty. He traded the dishwasher(wife) in for a more extreme(younger) model. The second dishwasher(wife) worked a lot better.

   
   
   
   
4. Peter Bowman

   

   11 posts
   
   7/23/2013 7:07 AM

   I like mine so far. It came with the house nine months ago, so it might be a contractor's special. It's a Whirlpool with all of twelve buttons, only three of which I ever use.
   
   Scott's right about the rinsing thing. Nothing worse than opening the dishwasher after a cycle only to find a couple dried up, rock hard grains of rice stuck between the third and fourth tines on a fork.
   
   He's also right that if the wife won't rinse first, it's time to get a new model.

   
   
   
   
5. Keith Lamb

   

   3 posts
   
   7/23/2013 7:07 AM

   We just built a new home and bought a Frigidaire Professional 24" Stainless Steel, Top control with Stainless Steel Tub and couldn't be happier. Paid somewhere around $700, can't remember exactly. Very quiet and does a great job. When it is running you don't even know it's on. I think it is rated at 51 Db. The Bosch ones are the quietest, but the interior size is smaller due to them being built to European standards. Interior is a little narrower and they are not as deep. Sears does price match which saved us a few $$.
   
   http://www.sears.com/frigidaire-professional-series-24inch-built-in-dishwasher/p-02212393000P?prdNo=1&blockNo=1&blockType=G1

   
   
   
   
6. Sean Hoolehan

   

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   7/23/2013 10:07 AM

   Clay,
   
   You just cant expect the longevity we used to get out of new appliances. The mechanical parts are mostly plastic. I always check Consumer Reports on line ( I pay a fee) but what has really helped me get better appliances is buying them from independent stores. Generally they only sell what works best, rather then being saddled selling the brands dogs and winners.

   
   
   
   
7. Charles Wolsborn

   

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   7/23/2013 11:07 AM

   We replaced our last cheap washer with a Bosch. It was not cheap, but quiet to the point you have to lean down to hear if it is running. The water is so hot during the rinse cycle that there is no dry cycle. Just the heat from the rinse has the dishes so hot they dry quickly. Many cheap washers have plastic pumps and when the pump goes it is a new machine.

   
   
   
   
8. Melvin Waldron

   

   43 posts
   
   7/23/2013 1:07 PM

   We had a contractor special in our house (A Hotpoint, did get 15 years use out of it) and replaced it in the spring of 2012 with a Kenmore, not sure what model, but it is quite and does a very nice job. The guys Sears sent to install it gave us better information then the salesman, (the installer used to be a salesman too). He said we made a good choice, and he told us, that while the items should be rinsed, they don't have to be totally clean either, the newer dishwashers have grinders to help get rid of the food particles. I have not had an issue with this washer not getting them clean, and my wife isn't as picky as I am about rinsing.
   
   I'll check the model tonight when I get home, I thought we paid about $500-600 installed, took the 6 or 12 months no interest deal.
   
   Mel

   
   Melvin H. Waldron III, CGCS, Horton Smith Golf Course, City of Springfield/Greene County MO
   
   
9. Canedo Alberto J

   
   7/23/2013 1:07 PM

   I am sticking to the old fashion way of cleaning dishes. Let the wife hand wash them.

   
   
   
   
10. Keith Pegg

    

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    7/23/2013 5:07 PM

    We have one in our new home and it as never been used. Married 43 years and we share the job of cooking and clean up when I am home that is.
    
    Keith
    Zama Golf

    
    
    
    
11. Peter Bowman

    

    11 posts
    
    7/23/2013 5:07 PM

    Keith Pegg said: We have one in our new home and it as never been used. Married 43 years and we share the job of cooking and clean up when I am home that is.
    
    Keith
    Zama Golf

    
    
    My wife is a fabulous cook but hates doing dishes, and I can't cook, so we made a deal 33 years ago. If we want something good to eat on clean dishes then she would cook and I'd do dishes. She still makes a complete mess of the kitchen, but it's worth it.
    
    Then we had kids, so they had to start doing dishes. My three kids still to this day call me The Dish Nazi. All I cared about that whoever's turn it was to do dishes that night, that they better be done when I woke up at 3:30 in the morning to make my coffee and go to work. I was not going to have my wife wake up to the kitchen mess she left, so if I had to I would drag the kid out of bed before 4:00 AM - school day or not - to get the dishes done. I was fuming. The whole neighborhood could hear me, I think.
    
    "Get your little $%@ out of bed right now, go downstairs and do the #$^&@#& dishes!!
    
    "I will Dad."
    
    "That's what you said last night and you didn't get 'em done, did you."
    
    "OK, fine Dish Nazi. I'll do them now."
    
    "Good boy (or girl)."

    
    
    
    
12. Trevor Monreal

    

    5 posts
    
    7/25/2013 1:07 PM

    Don't, repeat DON'T get one that comes with a rebate/cash back etc. for using less water/power or is GREEN in any way.
    That means you will have to run another cycle to get the dishes as clean as a normal dishwasher would.

    
    
    
    
13. Andy Jorgensen

    

    1 posts
    
    7/25/2013 4:07 PM

    Trevor Monreal said: Don't, repeat DON'T get one that comes with a rebate/cash back etc. for using less water/power or is GREEN in any way.
    That means you will have to run another cycle to get the dishes as clean as a normal dishwasher would.

    
    
    
    Kind of like the low flush toilets that require two flushes to get it all down the drain.

    
    
    
    
14. Clay Putnam

    

    33 posts
    
    7/26/2013 5:07 AM

    Peter Bowman, CGCS said:

    Keith Pegg said: We have one in our new home and it as never been used. Married 43 years and we share the job of cooking and clean up when I am home that is.
    
    Keith
    Zama Golf

    
    
    My wife is a fabulous cook but hates doing dishes, and I can't cook, so we made a deal 33 years ago. If we want something good to eat on clean dishes then she would cook and I'd do dishes. She still makes a complete mess of the kitchen, but it's worth it.
    
    Then we had kids, so they had to start doing dishes. My three kids still to this day call me The Dish Nazi. All I cared about that whoever's turn it was to do dishes that night, that they better be done when I woke up at 3:30 in the morning to make my coffee and go to work. I was not going to have my wife wake up to the kitchen mess she left, so if I had to I would drag the kid out of bed before 4:00 AM - school day or not - to get the dishes done. I was fuming. The whole neighborhood could hear me, I think.
    
    "Get your little $%@ out of bed right now, go downstairs and do the #$^&@#& dishes!!
    
    "I will Dad."
    
    "That's what you said last night and you didn't get 'em done, did you."
    
    "OK, fine Dish Nazi. I'll do them now."
    
    "Good boy (or girl)."

    
    
    That's a hell of a story Adolf-Petey. Now, if you can get your family to move into my place and do the dishes, then I'm good. But they need to be quiet. These new dishwashers are apparently super quiet so I will expect the same from your family.

    
    
    
    
15. Clay Putnam

    

    33 posts
    
    7/26/2013 5:07 AM

    Andy Jorgensen said:

    Trevor Monreal said: Don't, repeat DON'T get one that comes with a rebate/cash back etc. for using less water/power or is GREEN in any way.
    That means you will have to run another cycle to get the dishes as clean as a normal dishwasher would.

    
    
    
    Kind of like the low flush toilets that require two flushes to get it all down the drain.

    
    
    BINGO! Noting worse than the walk of shame to the bathroom holding the plunger.

    
    
    
    
16. Clay Putnam

    

    33 posts
    
    7/26/2013 5:07 AM

    The wife and I have a dish washer date this weekend. I'll post the winner when we pick our new bundle of joy.

    
    
    
    
17. Wahlin Scott B

    
    7/26/2013 9:07 AM

    The last club I worked for had what I thought was a dishwasher. When I looked into it I discovered that it was actually a dish sanitizer. You had to hand wash the dishes first.

    
    
    
    
18. Larry Allan

    

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    7/26/2013 10:07 AM

    Ideally two dishwashers would be the route to go. You need a clean plate, you take it out of the recently washed side. When you finish with the plate it goes into the other until full. Turn the second on and reverse the above instructions.
    
    It has several advantages.1/ It cuts down on the wear and tear on the shag carpet from the dishwasher to the cabinets and 2/ saves the wear and tear on your kitchen cabinet hinges and shelving

    
    
    
    
19. Wahlin Scott B

    
    7/26/2013 10:07 AM

    Larry Allan said: Ideally two dishwashers would be the route to go. You need a clean plate, you take it out of the recently washed side. When you finish with the plate it goes into the other until full. Turn the second on and reverse the above instructions.
    
    It has several advantages.1/ It cuts down on the wear and tear on the shag carpet from the dishwasher to the cabinets and 2/ saves the wear and tear on your kitchen cabinet hinges and shelving

    
    
    Wow, that is brilliant! To avoid the dirty dish thing I just eat over the sink, but with this method I could actually live like I am civilized.

    
    
    
    
20. Timothy Walker

    

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    7/26/2013 5:07 PM

    Scott Wahlin, CGCS said:

    Larry Allan said: Ideally two dishwashers would be the route to go. You need a clean plate, you take it out of the recently washed side. When you finish with the plate it goes into the other until full. Turn the second on and reverse the above instructions.
    
    It has several advantages.1/ It cuts down on the wear and tear on the shag carpet from the dishwasher to the cabinets and 2/ saves the wear and tear on your kitchen cabinet hinges and shelving

    
    
    Wow, that is brilliant! To avoid the dirty dish thing I just eat over the sink, but with this method I could actually live like I am civilized.

    
    
    That's ok Scott - we all know you're not civilized...so save the money and keep doing it the way you already are

    
    
    
    
21. Clay Putnam

    

    33 posts
    
    7/28/2013 9:07 AM

    Breaking news. We purchased a - wait for it - wait for it - Bosch. Have to wait a week for delivery. I never thought I would even be semi anxious for an appliance but our current dishwasher is all but dead and I'm getting tired of washing by hand.
    
    Thanks Fellas...

    
    
    
    
22. Peter Bowman

    

    11 posts
    
    7/28/2013 10:07 AM

    I like the ones that make noise. That's how I know they're on.

    
    
    
    
23. Wahlin Scott B

    
    7/28/2013 11:07 AM

    Timothy Walker, CGCS said: That's ok Scott - we all know you're not civilized...so save the money and keep doing it the way you already are

    
    
    Quite right Tim. Why try to fix a system that isn't broke!

    
    
    
    
24. Timothy Walker

    

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    8/1/2013 4:08 PM

    Scott Wahlin, CGCS said:

    Timothy Walker, CGCS said: That's ok Scott - we all know you're not civilized...so save the money and keep doing it the way you already are

    
    
    Quite right Tim. Why try to fix a system that isn't broke!

    
    
    
    Scott - you are a wise man. We call that waste - those in government call it something else.