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  1. Kevin Fateley
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    12/30/2013 9:12 AM
    We (my wife) uses Peachtree accounting software but after watching the entries and paying a crazy
    annual support fee. I am thinking of going to Quickbooks. This Peachtree program is way to complex (used with big companies) and we only stayed with it when we moved from our accountant doing our books to internal book keeping.
    We offsite our payroll to a payroll service now so that is not an issue. Employees use key fobs now but we will go to bio metrics soon. "I lost my key fob" will no longer be an excuse. However "I cut off my thumb at a party last night" will be valid!
    What are the pros and cons of Quick books?
    Marriage counseling when I dropped this bombshell on my wife of 32 years?

    Thanks
    Kevin Fateley
    Wildcat Creek Golf & Fitness
    Manhattan Ks



  2. David Stout
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    12/30/2013 9:12 PM
    In my opinion you may have more problems with the biometrics than quick books.......is that punch in/out data staying on site or going to your payroll provider? We've used biometrics for about 4 years now, all I can say is those with weathered prints will struggle to have accurate punches.



  3. Andy Jorgensen
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    1 posts
    12/31/2013 5:12 AM
    David Stout said: In my opinion you may have more problems with the biometrics than quick books.......is that punch in/out data staying on site or going to your payroll provider? We've used biometrics for about 4 years now, all I can say is those with weathered prints will struggle to have accurate punches.



    And dirty screens. We use the hand scan in one of our departments. They keep a bottle of Windex and tissues next to the clock because it will stop reading after about the 10th person. An alternative is punching a code, but this still doesn't prevent others from punching you in/out.

    For a small operation, Quick Books isn't a bad program. We use a program called Timberscan. This allows us to scan the invoice in, do all the accounting, get department head approval and make our check runs all from one program, electronically. Once the invoice is scanned in, we throw the paper copy away. Nowadays the large majority of my vendors don't even send a paper copy, just email. Ironically, most emailed vendor invoices are done through Quick Books!



  4. Sandy Clark
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    12/31/2013 9:12 AM
    My wife has her own extremely successful Bookkeeping business. She uses Quick Books exclusively and is considered a Quick Books Pro. She wants to achieve the next official level of certification. She swears by Quick Books but hates Quick Books on-line. She does payroll for sever firms as well as general accounting. She prepares everything for the CPA. It seems like she has been using Quick Books for years with nothing but the highest of praise.



  5. Kevin Fateley
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    5 posts
    12/31/2013 12:12 PM
    Thanks for the info. We are going to video up the clubhouse anyways so this will help to prevent key fob abuse. My wife tells employees to attach the fob to their car keys "You drive here right?" is often asked by wife. So if they forgot their fob was it because someone clocked them out for them? And accomplice did not get the fob back to the culprit? The video will show us if we suspect. We will skip the bio metrics.

    thanks

    kevin



  6. Melvin Waldron
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    43 posts
    12/31/2013 1:12 PM
    Kevin Fateley said: Thanks for the info. We are going to video up the clubhouse anyways so this will help to prevent key fob abuse. My wife tells employees to attach the fob to their car keys "You drive here right?" is often asked by wife. So if they forgot their fob was it because someone clocked them out for them? And accomplice did not get the fob back to the culprit? The video will show us if we suspect. We will skip the bio metrics.

    thanks

    kevin


    I'm sure that works most of the time, but I know on occasions, I'll have a different car because mine is being serviced, I could have forgotten to grab my fob off the key ring, but those occasions are probably pretty rare and can be quickly verified?

    Sometimes I wonder if the cost of advanced tools for clocking in and out are paying for themselves? I guess it depends on the size of the facility and amount of employees.

    Mel

    Melvin H. Waldron III, CGCS, Horton Smith Golf Course, City of Springfield/Greene County MO

  7. David Stout
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    1/2/2014 8:01 AM
    There are 32 of us total in our department and around 85 total for the entire country club staff.....for this number of people I don't think the newer technology pays for itself. There was just something so simple about a time clock that staff and supervisors can simply pull a card and look at the data. With the newer systems you have no backup, if someone had difficulty punching out one day and simply just left, you would have no proof of what time he left aside from his word.

    I know time theft and buddy punching can be a problem, but I've honestly never experienced it. We know who is scheduled and roll call every day....But, there is a reason the newer technology was developed, so maybe I prefer old school.



  8. Ronald Kirkman
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    42 posts
    1/2/2014 9:01 PM
    Greetings;

    We use a system called Micros and also QB on line. We also use an outside company for payroll. Through 2012 we used ADP and now we have another company. I did the payroll for many years right through through 2012. I don't do it any more.

    The waiters, waitresses, bartenders and clubhouse cleaning people plug in their time through Micros. The pro shop cart people do the same. Those on salary do not have to plug in. The pro shop personnell use time cards. The superintendent uses time cards for his staff and he sends the time in via email to the girl in the office every Monday. This lady in the office can have as much as 75 to 80 people on payroll at different times of the year. She then emails the payroll company with the hours and gratuities. The Manager takes care of any bonuses.

    Micros screws up now and then and the management in the pro shop, golf course and clubhouse have to take the information down and figure out the exact time for the employee in how many hours he/she worked.

    Micros is a good system but not really for the proshop. Micros gives you a figure on beer, wine, soft drink, liquor on a daily basis. The members can pay their dues by credit card at the bar on Thursday through Sunday. The card has to be swiped and the club charges $75.00 fee for a member to charge dues. This is on Micros and Micros clears about 4 A.M. and the dues are deposited in the bank. However, I have to put the charged dues in QB.

    QB on line is great, you never lose anything and it is not mind boggling to do. All department heads sign of on equipment or whatever they buy or lease and then the office girl and or myself will put in QB.

    I came back from the casino on New Yrs. Day because my wife had to work today. It was a great New Yrs. Eve. Party. I had a pile of dues to insert in QB and it took me from 3 P.M. to 9 P.M. last night. I just put in the member's name and after about 3 or 4 letters the name pops up but you have to scroll down or up now and then. I put in $218,000 in checks and $19, 000 in credit card dues and banked this morning.

    I am not a CPA or an Accountant and I find QB on line to relatively easy and you can do anything from budgets etc.and you don't have to worry about losing information.

    Capt. Kirk
    Retired Alien
    Needham Golf Club
    Needham,MA



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