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How do you approach job openings not posted

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  1. Parker Brandon
    Parker Brandon avatar
    3/10/2012 6:03 AM
    I often hear that this or that job is open. Most of the time it is not posted. How do you approach this issue.



  2. Peter Bowman
    Peter Bowman avatar
    11 posts
    3/10/2012 7:03 AM
    Call the golf course. Ask to speak with the GC Super. If he/she is still there, tell him/her that you heard a rumor. If they no longer have a GC Super then ask to speak with GM.



  3. David Brandenburg
    David Brandenburg avatar
    3 posts
    3/11/2012 3:03 PM
    Ethically your first call is the superintendent and it is just the professional thing to do. If the job isn't open it might be a uncomfortable situation but your just following up on a lead.

    Unfortunately some owners and boards will seek out a new candidate before telling the super he is being replaced and making that call reduces the chance that will happen. Do you really want to work for people that would do that?



  4. Phillips Gary S
    Phillips Gary S avatar
    3/14/2012 6:03 PM
    Could you give your thoughts on this regarding Assistant's positions? For example, I am currently a 2nd Assistant. Would it be uncouth or unprofessional to send my resume to a Super at a course I think I would be interested in working at, even if there are no advertised positions?



  5. Wahlin Scott B
    Wahlin Scott B avatar
    3/14/2012 6:03 PM
    Gary Phillips said: Could you give your thoughts on this regarding Assistant's positions? For example, I am currently a 2nd Assistant. Would it be uncouth or unprofessional to send my resume to a Super at a course I think I would be interested in working at, even if there are no advertised positions?


    I realize times have changed, but when I was an apprentice/assistant my superintendent took me around to all of the superintendents in the area to make sure I knew them. Granted we were in Palm Beach County where there were dozens of great superintendents all within a mile of so of each other. It has been a long time since I have had an apprentice/assistant. For many years now mine have been satisfied to be the assistant. Do superintendents not take their apprentices to other clubs and meetings like they used to?



  6. Phillips Gary S
    Phillips Gary S avatar
    3/14/2012 8:03 PM
    Thanks for the reply Scott. I think a lot of guys do still take their assistants around, I tend to get left behind to run the crew and the 1st Assistant goes. I have been on a couple of golf outings and did get to attend the state conference this year but it was my first continuing education event I've attended since graduating school in 2008. There are probably more courses in your county than there are in my state so I am sure that has a lot to do with things.

    I guess what I am asking is, would it be frowned up to email a Super and say, 'Hey, I would be interested in working for you if an opportunity arises, here is my resume.'



  7. Ronald Conard
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    4 posts
    3/15/2012 9:03 AM
    Gary Phillips said:

    I guess what I am asking is, would it be frowned up to email a Super and say, 'Hey, I would be interested in working for you if an opportunity arises, here is my resume.'


    Personally, I think the same ethics apply. The assistant at your hypothetical course is a human being too. It's really about whether or not another person currently is holding the job. When you're in these dilemmas ask yourself "Am I thinking solely about myself or am I considering the other guy, too?"

    You could ask if they have any open positions. But if you are targeting a specific, filled position, I think the same level of professional courtesy applies.



  8. Christopher Boldreghini
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    0 posts
    3/15/2012 10:03 AM
    Gary Phillips said: Could you give your thoughts on this regarding Assistant's positions? For example, I am currently a 2nd Assistant. Would it be uncouth or unprofessional to send my resume to a Super at a course I think I would be interested in working at, even if there are no advertised positions?

    If you get a chance to play the course at a superintendents meeting or something, just let the super know how much you enjoyed the course and how you would like to work at a facility like his some day. You're not trying to bump anyone out you are just letting him know that you have an interest in his type of facility.

    Charlie Boldreghini
    GCS HTCC



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