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Can votes be bought?

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  1. Jon Gansen
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  2. McCallum David K
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    9/27/2012 12:09 PM
    Imgaine that...........who would have thunk it.



  3. Keith Lamb
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    9/27/2012 12:09 PM
    [youtube">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ZQ-K2qb9PY[/youtube">



  4. Jon Gansen
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    9/27/2012 12:09 PM
    Buying votes with fear.



  5. Keith Lamb
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    9/27/2012 1:09 PM
    Jon Gansen said: Buying votes with fear.


    Bingo!



  6. Jon Gansen
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    9/27/2012 7:09 PM
    At least the video I posted is the pure unscripted way this country is turning and not the hollywood actors spinning.



  7. Niemier Rick A
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    9/27/2012 7:09 PM
    Jon Gansen said: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=tpAOwJvTOio


    Great proof that Obama is buying votes! :lol: :roll: The physcho woman couldn't describe how she even got a phone...if she really ever got a phone.



  8. Peter Bowman
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    9/27/2012 8:09 PM
    Whaddya' bet that on Monday November 5th they all get a reminder text to go out and vote the next day?



  9. Niemier Rick A
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    9/27/2012 8:09 PM
    And the Republicans aren't out buying votes either! :lol: Oh I know, they're not giving away phones :roll: they're just out recruiting honest voters! :lol: And this is a little more reliable than a youtube video posted by some clown. http://www.mediacomtoday.com/news/read.php?rip_id=%3CDA1IEFV82%40news.ap.org%3E&ps=1018



  10. Albert Kronwall
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  11. Niemier Rick A
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    9/27/2012 10:09 PM
    Albert Kronwall said: http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Bg98BvqUvCc


    Good thing there are no foolish Republican voters! :lol: :lol: :lol: :roll:



  12. Clay Putnam
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    9/28/2012 4:09 AM
    Rick Niemier said: And the Republicans aren't out buying votes either! :lol: Oh I know, they're not giving away phones :roll: they're just out recruiting honest voters! :lol: And this is a little more reliable than a youtube video posted by some clown. http://www.mediacomtoday.com/news/read.php?rip_id=%3CDA1IEFV82%40news.ap.org%3E&ps=1018


    What's more reliable than unedited video coverage? Perhaps the "clown" would be less of a "clown" had he made a sketched rendering instead of a video?



  13. Niemier Rick A
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    9/28/2012 6:09 AM
    Clay Putnam, CGCS said:
    Rick Niemier said: And the Republicans aren't out buying votes either! :lol: Oh I know, they're not giving away phones :roll: they're just out recruiting honest voters! :lol: And this is a little more reliable than a youtube video posted by some clown. http://www.mediacomtoday.com/news/read.php?rip_id=%3CDA1IEFV82%40news.ap.org%3E&ps=1018


    What's more reliable than unedited video coverage? Perhaps the "clown" would be less of a "clown" had he made a sketched rendering instead of a video?


    Is the woman in the video telling the truth? Who is she? Could it have been staged by the person who made the video? She didn't have a very good answer to how she got a phone did she? Very few facts known about this video.



  14. McCallum David K
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    9/28/2012 9:09 AM
    What an appropriate posting after the video of yesterday. this was printed in the Daily News on Friday November 4, 1949. Amazing how farsighted some politicians were even back then........this was put into the Congressional Record by Rep Clarence J Brown of Ohio.

    Father, must I go to work?
    No, my lucky son
    We're now on Easy Street
    On dough from Washington

    We've left it up to Uncle Sam
    So dont get excersied.
    Nobody has to give a damn
    We've all been subsidized!

    But if Sam treats all so well
    And feeds us milk and honey,
    Please, daddy, tell me what the hell
    He's going to use for money.

    Don't worry, bub, there's not a hitch
    In this noble plan......
    He simply soaks the filthy rich
    And helps the common man.

    But, father, won't there come a time
    When they run out of cash
    And we have left them not a dime
    When things will go to smash?

    My faith in your is shrinking son,
    You nosy little brat
    You do to damn much thinking, son
    To be a DEMOCRAT



  15. Albert Kronwall
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    9/28/2012 11:09 AM



  16. Niemier Rick A
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    9/28/2012 11:09 AM
    Some of you guys should spend a little less time on YouTube and a little more time reading the comics. Both will solve the world's problems at about the same time. :lol:



  17. Peter Bowman
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    9/28/2012 11:09 AM
    It was a free iPhone App. Now it's $0.99.

    Obama, in His Own Words



  18. Jon Gansen
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    9/28/2012 12:09 PM
    Rick Niemier said: Some of you guys should spend a little less time on YouTube and a little more time reading the comics. Both will solve the world's problems at about the same time. :lol:


    Just trying to get more people to put down the comics and kool-aid and pay more attention.



  19. Niemier Rick A
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    9/28/2012 1:09 PM
    Jon Gansen said:
    Rick Niemier said: Some of you guys should spend a little less time on YouTube and a little more time reading the comics. Both will solve the world's problems at about the same time. :lol:


    Just trying to get more people to put down the comics and kool-aid and pay more attention.




    Your not going to convince many people by posting You Tube videos "created" by clowns. Maybe post a few videos of your candidate behind closed doors showing his true colors. :lol:



  20. Jon Gansen
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    9/28/2012 2:09 PM
    Just trying to convey Rick, that some people live in the comic section of the paper and never touch the rest. There so many people that know government for one thing. Which is fine for those who truly need and are on hard times, but too many use it like this woman (I got this I want this).
    This clown as you say caught something real and shows the mentality of a lot of people.
    As far as Romney hurting feelings with the 47% on entitlements truth hurts. I bet a lot of those 47% would like the jobs they were promised by the Messiah and his truly closed door Chicago policies.

    http://www.assurancewireless.com/Public/MorePrograms.aspx Just to show the lady did get a free phone which she can upgrade from the 250 free minutes to the 30.00 unlimited talk text and web. Funded by Federal Universal Service Fund.



  21. Albert Kronwall
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    9/28/2012 2:09 PM
    Rick Niemier said:
    Your not going to convince many people by posting You Tube videos "created" by clowns. Maybe post a few videos of your candidate behind closed doors showing his true colors. :lol:


    Ask and you shall receive.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XsFR8DbSRQE

    "This is my last election. After my election I have more flexibility,"



  22. Peter Bowman
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    9/28/2012 3:09 PM
    Albert Kronwall said:
    Rick Niemier said:
    Your not going to convince many people by posting You Tube videos "created" by clowns. Maybe post a few videos of your candidate behind closed doors showing his true colors. :lol:


    Ask and you shall receive.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XsFR8DbSRQE

    "This is my last election. After my election I have more flexibility,"


    That's pretty transparent, if you ask me.



  23. Clay Putnam
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    9/28/2012 3:09 PM
    Albert Kronwall said:
    Rick Niemier said:
    Your not going to convince many people by posting You Tube videos "created" by clowns. Maybe post a few videos of your candidate behind closed doors showing his true colors. :lol:


    Ask and you shall receive.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XsFR8DbSRQE

    "This is my last election. After my election I have more flexibility,"


    I wonder who was the clown that posted that? :D :) ;) :( :o :shock: :? 8-) :lol: :x :P :oops: :cry: :evil: :twisted: :roll: :!: :?: :idea: :arrow: :| :mrgreen: :geek: :ugeek:



  24. Niemier Rick A
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    9/28/2012 5:09 PM
    Albert Kronwall said:
    Rick Niemier said:
    Your not going to convince many people by posting You Tube videos "created" by clowns. Maybe post a few videos of your candidate behind closed doors showing his true colors. :lol:


    Ask and you shall receive.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XsFR8DbSRQE

    "This is my last election. After my election I have more flexibility,"


    Sorry Albert, I didn't know Obama was YOUR candidate! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :P :o :shock: :mrgreen: :roll: :cry: :cry: :D :o :shock: :oops: (wow that takes a lot of talent to do that!) :lol:

    Here is Mitt saying what he is afraid to say in public. Just another one of his many oops moments. :o

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nvqHERTcytI



  25. Niemier Rick A
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    9/28/2012 5:09 PM
    Jon Gansen said: Just trying to convey Rick, that some people live in the comic section of the paper and never touch the rest. There so many people that know government for one thing. Which is fine for those who truly need and are on hard times, but too many use it like this woman (I got this I want this).
    This clown as you say caught something real and shows the mentality of a lot of people.
    As far as Romney hurting feelings with the 47% on entitlements truth hurts. I bet a lot of those 47% would like the jobs they were promised by the Messiah and his truly closed door Chicago policies.

    http://www.assurancewireless.com/Public/MorePrograms.aspx Just to show the lady did get a free phone which she can upgrade from the 250 free minutes to the 30.00 unlimited talk text and web. Funded by Federal Universal Service Fund.


    These entitlements have been going on for years! You will never be able to eliminate the people who take advantage of these entitlements, it's all they've known for generations. If you think all these entitlements have come about in the last three years you are reading the comics to much! Maybe Congress should get off their arses and do something.



  26. McCallum David K
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    9/28/2012 7:09 PM
    And the remark about being his last election and more flexibiltiy is the scary one............he was not talking about giving away more food stamps or cell phones but taking away more of our nukes compared to the Russians. Will happily give up a few more freebie phones to keep us from being the only disarmed superpower on earth.

    The only thing I can think for the Samuel Jackson video is fear..........that is not meant for mainstream media consumption but to get those that were energized to vote for him 4 years ago, primarily young black voters, to get off their butts and to the polls. They tend to respond to in the face, disprecting me street talk.



  27. Keith Lamb
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    9/28/2012 8:09 PM
    David McCallum said:

    The only thing I can think for the Samuel Jackson video is fear..........that is not meant for mainstream media consumption but to get those that were energized to vote for him 4 years ago, primarily young black voters, to get off their butts and to the polls. They tend to respond to in the face, disprecting[size=85">(sic)[/size"> me street talk.



    Still trying to figure out how you earned the street cred to get the perspective of our black youth.

    Meanwhile, here in Florida....dealing with voter registration fraud......and I have to wait 3-4 weeks for a new iPhone 5....WTH?



  28. Melvin Waldron
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    9/28/2012 8:09 PM
    [quote">The Obama Phone?
    Posted on October 29, 2009 , Updated on Nov. 5, 2009

    Q: Has the Obama administration started a program to use "taxpayer money" to give free cell phones to welfare recipients?

    A: No. Low-income households have been eligible for discounted telephone service for more than a decade. But the program is funded by telecom companies, not by taxes, and the president has nothing to do with it.


    FULL QUESTION

    Is this e-mail true?

    I had a former employee call me earlier today inquiring about a job, and at the end of the conversation he gave me his phone number. I asked the former employee if this was a new cell phone number and he told me yes this was his "Obama phone."

    ⬐ Click to expand/collapse the full text ⬏

    I asked him what an "Obama phone" was and he went on to say that welfare recipients are now eligible to receive (1) a FREE new phone and (2) approx 70 minutes of FREE minutes every month. I was a little skeptical so I Googled it and low and behold he was telling the truth. TAX PAYER MONEY IS BEING REDISTRIBUTED TO WELFARE RECIPIENTS FOR FREE CELL PHONES.. This program was started earlier this year. Enough is enough, the ship is sinking and it's sinking fast. The very foundations that this country was built on are being shaken. The age-old concepts of God, family, and hard work have flown out the window and are being replaced with "Hope and Change" and "Change we can believe in." You can click on the link below to read more about the "Obama phone"…just have a barf bag ready. https://www.safelinkwireless.com/Enroll ... /home.aspx Google: Safelink Wireless

    FULL ANSWER

    Welfare recipients, and others, can receive a free cell phone, but the program is not funded by the government or taxpayer money, as the e-mail alleges. And it's hardly new.

    How It Works

    SafeLink Wireless, the program mentioned in the e-mail, does indeed offer a cell phone, about one hour's worth of calling time per month, and other wireless services like voice mail to eligible low-income households. Applicants have to apply and prove that they are either receiving certain types of government benefits, such as Medicaid, or have household incomes at or below 135 percent of the poverty line. Using 2009 poverty guidelines, that's $14,620 for an individual and a little under $30,000 for a family of four, with slightly higher amounts for Alaska and Hawaii.

    SafeLink is run by a subsidiary of América Móvil, the world's fourth largest wireless company in terms of subscribers, but it is not paid for directly by the company. Nor is it paid for with "tax payer money," as the e-mail claims. Rather, it is funded through the Universal Service Fund, which is administered by the Universal Service Administrative Company, an independent, not-for-profit corporation set up by the Federal Communications Commission. The USF is sustained by contributions from telecommunications companies such as "long distance companies, local telephone companies, wireless telephone companies, paging companies, and payphone providers." The companies often charge customers to fund their contributions in the form of a universal service fee you might see on your monthly phone bill. The fund is then parceled out to companies, such as América Móvil, that create programs, such as SafeLink, to provide telecommunications service to rural areas and low-income households.

    History

    The SafeLink program has actually been offering cell phones to low-income households in some states since 2008, not beginning "earlier this year," as the e-mail claims. But the program is rooted in a deeper history.

    When phone lines were first laid out in the late 19th century, they were not always inter-operable. That is to say the phone service created by one company to serve one town may not have been compatible with the phone service of another company serving a different town nearby. The telecom companies themselves saw the folly in this arrangement, and so in 1913, AT&T committed itself to resolving interconnection problems as part of the "Kingsbury Commitment."

    That common goal of universal service became a goal of universal access to service when Congress passed The Telecommunications Act of 1934. The act created the FCC and also included in its preamble a promise "to make available, so far as possible, to all the people of the United States, a rapid, efficient, Nation-wide, and world-wide wire and radio communication service with adequate facilities at reasonable charges." There was a fear, expressed by telecom companies themselves, that market forces alone might encourage companies to pass on providing service to hard-to-reach places. This would both hurt the people who wouldn't have service as well as existing customers who wouldn't be able to reach them. So the new FCC was tasked with promoting this principle of "universal service."

    This informal practice was codified when the Universal Service Administrative Company (USAC) was created as part of the 1996 Telecommunications Act to "ensure all Americans, including low-income consumers and those who live in rural, insular, high cost areas, shall have affordable service and [to] help to connect eligible schools, libraries, and rural health care providers to the global telecommunications network." The USAC includes four programs to serve rural areas, high cost areas, rural health care providers, and schools and libraries. Since 1997, USAC has provided discounted land line service to low-income individuals. (A more limited program to offer assistance to low-income individuals was created a decade earlier; the telecommunications act expanded and formalized it.) According to Eric Iversen, USAC director of external relations, the Universal Service Fund more recently began funding programs that provide wireless service, such as the pre-paid cellular SafeLink program mentioned in the chain e-mail.

    The president has no direct impact on the program, and one could hardly call these devices "Obama Phones," as the e-mail author does. This specific program, SafeLink, started under President George Bush, with grants from an independent company created under President Bill Clinton, which was a legacy of an act passed under President Franklin Roosevelt, which was influenced by an agreement reached between telecommunications companies and the administration of President Woodrow Wilson.

    Wilson Phones, anyone?

    – Justin Bank

    Update, Nov. 5: A public relations representative from SafeLink Wireless contacted us to note that the América Móvil subsidiary that operates the SafeLink program and receives funds from the USF is TracFone Wireless, based in Miami, Fla.

    From FactCheck.org

    Mel

    Melvin H. Waldron III, CGCS, Horton Smith Golf Course, City of Springfield/Greene County MO

  29. McCallum David K
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    9/29/2012 6:09 AM
    Keith I may be totally wrong.......but who do you thinkg that video is aimed at.......white women, old white guys like me.......educated black professionals? The black youth in my opinion is a better bet



  30. Ronald Conard
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    9/29/2012 8:09 AM
    Jon Gansen said: Just trying to convey Rick, that some people live in the comic section of the paper and never touch the rest.


    I live in the comic section. It's much more peaceful there and couldn't care less about your cat crap fight. Any problem with that? You're really not solving anything. Do you really think it's Mitt or we are all headed to hell in a hand basket or is this just a hobby?



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