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  1. Clay Putnam
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    10/14/2014 8:10 AM
    Mel,

    Not sure you're following me. I'm not suggesting we shouldn't attack this issue. The dems always, always blame any issue on others or place blame on a lack of funds. Always. Regardless of their own short comings, the dems point fingers away from themselves. They're very quick to accept praise but never accept responsibility. Case in point, BO. A more self serving hack is hard to find.



  2. Steve Nelson
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    10/14/2014 10:10 AM
    Clay Putnam, CGCS said: Mel,

    The dems always, always blame any issue on others or place blame on a lack of funds. Always.


    Clay, don't be so harsh. I mean where in the world are people expected to get so much done without any funding or resources....Oh wait, that's the golf biz for the last decade. :cry:



  3. Melvin Waldron
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    10/14/2014 10:10 AM
    Clay Putnam, CGCS said: Mel,

    Not sure you're following me. I'm not suggesting we shouldn't attack this issue. The dems always, always blame any issue on others or place blame on a lack of funds. Always. Regardless of their own short comings, the dems point fingers away from themselves. They're very quick to accept praise but never accept responsibility. Case in point, BO. A more self serving hack is hard to find.


    I was responding to what I hear from conservatives, I can agree the democrats don't take enough responsibility but neither do the republicans and they just want to blame (of course both sides do a lot of blaming of the other). Both sides are failing us because they only worry about themselves and trying to appease those throwing money at them.

    The big question is, is there a lack of funds? Maybe not in the total government budget/revenue streams, (although with the tax breaks and some laws that can be argued), or is the problem directing the funds we have? I would guess there is a little (or maybe a lot) of both going on.

    Mel

    Melvin H. Waldron III, CGCS, Horton Smith Golf Course, City of Springfield/Greene County MO

  4. Larry Allan
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    10/14/2014 11:10 AM
    Ronald Kirkman said: This man named Duncan from Algeria visited relatives in Texas. He lied on his form about Ebola. No doubt he has infected some people. Three different planes - visiting family and the hospital staff that sent him away from a hospital in Texas after giving him some antibiotics for his sickness which they diagnosed was wrong. Another four days before he was admitted for EBOLA.

    I'm sure ALLAH is informing his people to have the ladies get infected and come to the U.S. and hang around with some, we'll say adults. That will be the fastest way to start an epidemic over here. ALLAH will be very pleased. Meantime, let's not SECURE the border and let all the people enter, what the hell we are AMERICA. Larry you can even let them in from CANADA.

    I'm sure most of you don't remember CUBA when Fidel Castro let all the prisoners enter the U.S.

    There is a virus going around that is affecting children. Wonder if that's from all the illegals entering this country without being examined by doctors.

    Remember, those that don't like us will get us from within.

    Capt. Kirk
    Retired Alien
    Needham Golf Club
    Needham, MA


    Captain, Sub Sahara Africa is primarily Black Christian in its nature. Not at all broadly worshiping Allah. They tend to believe in the white Jesus you guys do. I think you will have to blame Your Savior, The Lord Jesus Christ for this transmission to America. Allah may have provided other problems but this not one of them



  5. Clay Putnam
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    10/15/2014 6:10 AM
    According to CNN (no heckling please) a second nurse from the Dallas hospital has contracted Ebola. Reports suggest (obvious) sloppy procedures at this hospital and the CDC now regrets having sent Thomas Duncan to this hospital. This begs the question, how the hell does the CDC botch this? Director Frieden clearly needs the boot and a fast review of all Ebola protocols needs to occur as it relates to Ebola patients coming to the states and an indefinite halt of travel from Ebola countries to the states.



  6. Larry Allan
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    10/15/2014 7:10 AM
    Clay Putnam, CGCS said: According to CNN (no heckling please) a second nurse from the Dallas hospital has contracted Ebola. Reports suggest (obvious) sloppy procedures at this hospital and the CDC now regrets having sent Thomas Duncan to this hospital. This begs the question, how the hell does the CDC botch this? Director Frieden clearly needs the boot and a fast review of all Ebola protocols needs to occur as it relates to Ebola patients coming to the states and an indefinite halt of travel from Ebola countries to the states.

    It sounds like a good idea in principle but with a 21 day incubation period a Liberian could easily travel overland to Kenya, fly to Australia, spend a week on a cruise ship, and them fly on to the US before any signs of illness arise. There might be some merit to banning direct flights from infected countries, but with all the various connecting flights around the world, you would almost have to ban all international arrivals to the States



  7. Clay Putnam
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    10/15/2014 7:10 AM
    Larry Allan said:
    Clay Putnam, CGCS said: According to CNN (no heckling please) a second nurse from the Dallas hospital has contracted Ebola. Reports suggest (obvious) sloppy procedures at this hospital and the CDC now regrets having sent Thomas Duncan to this hospital. This begs the question, how the hell does the CDC botch this? Director Frieden clearly needs the boot and a fast review of all Ebola protocols needs to occur as it relates to Ebola patients coming to the states and an indefinite halt of travel from Ebola countries to the states.

    It sounds like a good idea in principle but with a 21 day incubation period a Liberian could easily travel overland to Kenya, fly to Australia, spend a week on a cruise ship, and them fly on to the US before any signs of illness arise. There might be some merit to banning direct flights from infected countries, but with all the various connecting flights around the world, you would almost have to ban all international arrivals to the States


    Understood. Banning flights from infected countries is just one of many options. Perhaps a better phrasing would be banning all those who are from and/or those who have traveled to and from infected countries.



  8. Sandy Clark
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    10/15/2014 9:10 AM
    Remembered the name of the book I read years ago. It is called Hot Zone and it is all about Ebola and earlier outbreaks. I think the Dustin Hoffman movie Outbreak was based on it. Book is easy to read yet gives a real good look at Ebola. Things like this were feared back then. Where will all of this lead? Is this the global pandemic that was discussed in Hot Zone? Sure hope not.



  9. Sandy Clark
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    10/15/2014 11:10 AM
    Now it turns out the latest patient was on a flight the day before her fever started with 131 other passengers. I hope none of them show symptoms because if they do, we will be facing an insidious nightmare that will be way beyond anything this country is prepared for. Nobody wants to panic but this may end up changing how we live. Pray nobody ends up with symptoms!



  10. Clay Putnam
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    10/15/2014 11:10 AM
    OK, the cat's out of the bag. Maybe we should have banned flights from Cleveland.



  11. Larry Allan
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    10/15/2014 12:10 PM
    Sandy Clark, CGCS said: Remembered the name of the book I read years ago. It is called Hot Zone and it is all about Ebola and earlier outbreaks. I think the Dustin Hoffman movie Outbreak was based on it. Book is easy to read yet gives a real good look at Ebola. Things like this were feared back then. Where will all of this lead? Is this the global pandemic that was discussed in Hot Zone? Sure hope not.

    Hey Sandy, that is the book that was written about what I saw happening at Kitum Cave back in 1987-88. Scary book

    I'm enclosing a word file screen shot of my computer showing the weird "w" s that are afflicting this website...zoom in. I'm very concerned



  12. Clay Putnam
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    10/15/2014 12:10 PM
    I would be concerned with your computer referring to you as "SeaMonkey".



  13. Clay Putnam
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    10/15/2014 5:10 PM
    This should clear things up lickity split.

    (CNSNews.com) - "Dr. Tom Frieden, director for the Center for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), said during a telephone press briefing Wednesday that you cannot get Ebola by sitting next to someone on a bus, but that infected or exposed persons should not ride public transportation because they could transmit the disease to someone else."



  14. Larry Allan
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    10/15/2014 6:10 PM
    It would really be something if they found Ebola could be spread by mosquitoes. Might be time to invest in patent holders of DDT. By the way, I would bathe comfortably in a mix of DDT and Daconil. Too damned old to worry bout the outcome
    .



  15. Peter Bowman
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    10/15/2014 8:10 PM
    Larry Allan said: It would really be something if they found Ebola could be spread by mosquitoes. Might be time to invest in patent holders of DDT. By the way, I would bathe comfortably in a mix of DDT and Daconil. Too damned old to worry bout the outcome
    .


    I believe I've told this story here before....

    My dad was a plant pathologist at UC Berkeley. He had an entomologist buddy in a lab down the hallway back in the early 1970s. This guy would drink a juice glass full of DDT every day. They're both in their mid-80's now and doing just fine, thank you.



  16. Clay Putnam
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    10/16/2014 6:10 AM
    For those of you keeping score out there:

    - Frieden, "no worries, we can contain this thing. I know how to contain this this thing. Any hospital in the US can handle Ebola"
    - Frieden, "ahh, we shouldn't have sent the patient to Dallas".
    - Frieden, "the nurse didn't follow protocols".
    - Frieden, "ahh, sorry for blaming the nurse. We really do not have solid, consistent protocols".
    - Frieden, "that nurse should not have gotten on the flight in Cleveland".
    - CDC, "the nurse called and told us that she had a fever prior to getting on the flight. We told her, g'head and get on that plane".



  17. Sandy Clark
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    10/16/2014 9:10 AM
    Clay, you just hit on my point. Not the airlines fault nor we find out the fault of the nurse. CDC says fine, go ahead and fly! She had worked with a guy that created a bio hazard nightmare as he was dying and we now find out that the hospital didn't have the proper level of suits for the nurses and they were learning as they went. This virus has been well known since the 70"s yet the CDC and everyone affiliated did nothing to prepare. I believe we had planes in the 70's so why didn't plans exist years ago. Hot Zone was not an obscure book! They honestly don't know or won't admit how many ways this virus can get to you. The director made the stupid statement that you could spread it being on a bus but could not contact it. Huh? Isn't that one and the same? If you just worked with an Ebola patient, I am sorry, you can't go anywhere for over 21 days and even a fever of 99.5, you get put in a protected zone. We need to get real!



  18. Stephen Okula
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    10/19/2014 3:10 PM
    If am meteor even one mile in diameter struck the earth it would cause such a shock that the resulting smoke and ash would cover the world for centuries and probably wipe out life as we know it. One of these bad boys might well be hurtling through space at a million miles a minute on a collision course with Gary, Indiana RIGHT NOW and we would have no warning at all and BARACK OBAMA ISN'T DOING ONE SINGLE THING ABOUT IT!!!



  19. Clay Putnam
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    10/20/2014 5:10 AM
    Stephen Okula, CGCS said: If am meteor even one mile in diameter struck the earth it would cause such a shock that the resulting smoke and ash would cover the world for centuries and probably wipe out life as we know it. One of these bad boys might well be hurtling through space at a million miles a minute on a collision course with Gary, Indiana RIGHT NOW and we would have no warning at all and BARACK OBAMA ISN'T DOING ONE SINGLE THING ABOUT IT!!!


    Gary, IN? Ha! That'll never happen. First, the meteor will have to cross Illinois and will be required to pay the appropriate atmosphere entry tax. Then cross Chicago and nothing, I mean nothing, crosses Chicago without paying their fair share of of "use fees". Followed by having to pay a fine for speeding in a school zone (because it's for the kids). Lastly, the unions will picket and raise Rat balloons in protest of the meteor for failure of not using hall union members to set up traffic cones, plug in portable road sign extension cords, and failing to provide reasonable notice to air traffic controllers.



  20. Peter Bowman
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    10/20/2014 6:10 AM
    Clay Putnam, CGCS said:
    Stephen Okula, CGCS said: If am meteor even one mile in diameter struck the earth it would cause such a shock that the resulting smoke and ash would cover the world for centuries and probably wipe out life as we know it. One of these bad boys might well be hurtling through space at a million miles a minute on a collision course with Gary, Indiana RIGHT NOW and we would have no warning at all and BARACK OBAMA ISN'T DOING ONE SINGLE THING ABOUT IT!!!


    Gary, IN? Ha! That'll never happen. First, the meteor will have to cross Illinois and will be required to pay the appropriate atmosphere entry tax. Then cross Chicago and nothing, I mean nothing, crosses Chicago without paying their fair share of of "use fees". Lastly, the unions will picket and raise Rat balloons in protest of the meteor for failure of not using hall union members to set up traffic cones, plug in portable road sign extension cords, and failing to provide reasonable notice to air traffic controllers.


    An obviously racist meteor, I do believe Eric Holder would come out of retirement to investigate that one.



  21. Joel Rhodes
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    10/22/2014 2:10 AM
    Do you know that more American people have been married to Kim Kardasian than have died from ebola? Not sure of the stats on TV coverage of which of these were more common though.

    (Edited thanks to someone smarter than me! Thank you sir.)



  22. Keith Lamb
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    10/22/2014 3:10 AM
    Joel Rhodes said: Do you know that more AMERICAN people have been married to Kim Kardasian than have died from ebola? Not sure of the stats on TV coverage of which of these were more common though.



  23. Clay Putnam
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    10/22/2014 5:10 AM
    Keith Lamb said:
    Joel Rhodes said: Do you know that more AMERICAN people have been married to Kim Kardasian than have died from ebola? Not sure of the stats on TV coverage of which of these were more common though.


    Minor details...



  24. Sandy Clark
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    10/22/2014 9:10 AM
    Read this morning on Drudge that more Liberians with connections to Ebola have been stopped at the airport and are being carefully checked out. I certainly hope we have a 100% success rate. Why wouldn't you try to get in if you thought it might be your only hope of survival! The few we have dealt with have or are recovering other than Duncan. Scary part would be getting overwhelmed. Hope we never see it happen!



  25. Ronald Kirkman
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    10/22/2014 10:10 PM
    Sandy,

    I am not hi-jacking your post. Just a little sentence I have to inform you. I saw a friend of yours today as we were attempting to play golf in wind driven rain. Mike Videtta said to say hello to you. I said I will - Hello Sandy!!!

    Capt. Kirk
    Retired Alien
    Needham Golf Club
    Needham,MA



  26. Sandy Clark
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    10/24/2014 3:10 PM
    Captain, how is Mike? I haven't seen him since he left San Diego Country Club. Pass on a hello from me as well. Back to Ebola. It will be interesting to see the impact of this doctor on those he came in contact with. Sounds like he may have been around a few more people than one of the nurses. I hope it works out just as quiet. As far as the Kim Kardasian comparison, keep in mind, she repels most people with a brain so she would have trouble spreading much of anything and who knows what she may have!



  27. Stephen Okula
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    10/25/2014 5:10 AM
    Keith Lamb said:
    Joel Rhodes said: Do you know that more AMERICAN people have been married to Kim Kardasian than have died from ebola? Not sure of the stats on TV coverage of which of these were more common though.


    Typically, the Obama administration is doing nothing to prevent Kim Kardashian from victimizing more Americans. How much do we have to put up with before we can impeach this guy?



  28. Edward Doda
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    10/25/2014 10:10 AM
    Best explanation of the Ebola virus, how it infects and kills and a possible treatment. Long but excellent read.

    http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2014/ ... ign=buffer

    ed doda



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