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Reagan, the Founding Fathers and theTaliban

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  1. Wahlin Scott B
    Wahlin Scott B avatar
    10/27/2012 11:10 AM
    [img">http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll284/scottcgcs/reagan85.jpg[/img">



  2. Peter Bowman
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    11 posts
    10/27/2012 1:10 PM
    At least it's not Bush's fault.



  3. Wahlin Scott B
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    10/27/2012 3:10 PM
    The Bushes were holding hands and snuggling with Saudi men in '85.



  4. Ronald Conard
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    4 posts
    10/28/2012 8:10 AM
    I don't think this is a partisan deal Scott. Didn't Clinton have a chance to take out OBL but instead sent a missile harmlessly into the sand? Both parties have been guilty of snuggling up to the wrong guys time and time again.



  5. Wahlin Scott B
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    10/28/2012 11:10 AM
    Ronald Conard, CGCS said: I don't think this is a partisan deal Scott. Didn't Clinton have a chance to take out OBL but instead sent a missile harmlessly into the sand? Both parties have been guilty of snuggling up to the wrong guys time and time again.


    Obama has been killing the crap out of them for the past three years.



  6. Clay Putnam
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    33 posts
    10/29/2012 6:10 AM
    Some questions are just too uncomfortable to answer Ron. The answers usually contradict an unreasonable agenda so the strategy is to deflect the original question with another question or comment.



  7. McCallum David K
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    10/29/2012 7:10 AM
    Lets get this clear...............excuse the periods........OBAMA has killed no one. I know he used the word I, me, my a whole lot in describing the killing of Osama but he did nothing but watch the deal go down.



  8. James Schmid
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    10/29/2012 10:10 AM
    David McCallum said: Lets get this clear...............excuse the periods........OBAMA has killed no one. I know he used the word I, me, my a whole lot in describing the killing of Osama but he did nothing but watch the deal go down.


    Who gets the credit for the killing when it's a reaper drone? Is it the drone? The computer programmer?



  9. Albert Kronwall
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    10/29/2012 5:10 PM

    Obama has been killing the crap out of them for the past three years.

    Including our Ambassador Stevens and three other Americans by telling our troops to "stand down" and not allowing them to rescue our own. They were sitting ducks and expecting help to arrive for seven hours. Our Commander In Chief was only looking to save his own a$$!



  10. Larry Allan
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    10/30/2012 6:10 AM
    Andy, How exactly would that[size=150"> save[/size"> the presidents backside?



  11. Melvin Waldron
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    43 posts
    10/30/2012 7:10 AM
    Albert Kronwall said:

    Obama has been killing the crap out of them for the past three years.

    Including our Ambassador Stevens and three other Americans by telling our troops to "stand down" and not allowing them to rescue our own. They were sitting ducks and expecting help to arrive for seven hours. Our Commander In Chief was only looking to save his own a$$!

    Andy can that be confirmed, especially the part about troops in position to rescue the Ambassador and his team? I would be guessing of course just like everyone else, but if there was a military presence in the area that could have rescued them, I would have to think the president would had sent them (he was one of the few that took the chance with Bin Laden, of course that was planned down to the minute detail), the military team certainly would have wanted to go in. But I also caution if they would have tried to go in and it blew up in their faces, meaning the loss of many of the team (like Jimmy Carter in Iran), civilians caught in the crossfire, etc. Maybe to much bad could have come from an attempt. Not that I wouldn't want them to try if possible, and for those families probably something they wouldn't want to hear, but during the attack if the attempt would have been made and it failed think about the big picture consequences (I guess this is what you might consider the president saving his backside?). While it was tragic and there was probably a lot of things that could have been done differently before hand, the support from the Lybian people themselves for the Ambassador after the attacks, showed truly that he was achieving what he had been sent there to do. The best thing we can do now is bring those people to justice just like we do here in the states and learn from the mistakes of this tragedy. Just my opinion.

    Mel

    Melvin H. Waldron III, CGCS, Horton Smith Golf Course, City of Springfield/Greene County MO

  12. McCallum David K
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    10/30/2012 9:10 AM
    I suppose if on a guided hunt for bear or some such critter, the guide may put you on the game of your choice, give you all the pertinent data but the hunter who pulls the trigger gets credit for the kill. That's the way it has been on any hunt I have been on. Never had a guide take credit for the kill. Perhaps we should have smeared some blood on Obama which is a ritural for your first deer kill. (at least in the south it is) .......great photo op.



  13. Albert Kronwall
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    10/30/2012 4:10 PM
    Larry Allan said: Andy, How exactly would that[size=150"> save[/size"> the presidents backside?


    Obama, his disciples and the MSM have been trying to convince us that when Obama killed Osama Bin Laden al Qaeda's power had been minimized and we no longer needed to fear terrorism. On the campaign trail he is still using the "Osama is dead-GM is alive- and al Qaeda is on its heels" rally cry.

    But, the attack on Benghazi was proof that the terrorists are not on their heels or afraid of Obama. Sending in military protection, as requested by the Ambassador, to Libya prior to the attack would have contradicted his campaign stump speeches claiming he has made the Middle East region safe. If he could have gotten away with the "spontaneous protest as a result of a video" story line he could still pretend that he has put an end to terrorism.

    Once a lie is told you have to keep telling more and more, but eventually the truth comes out. I would think that the lessons from Nixon and Clinton would have been a deterrent, especially for something this serious. No one was killed as a result of Watergate or Clinton lying under oath.



  14. Wahlin Scott B
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    10/30/2012 4:10 PM
    Albert Kronwall said: Once a lie is told you have to keep telling more and more, but eventually the truth comes out.


    In Romney's case it does not matter if the truth comes out or not, he just keeps lying and saying anything. It is baffling my the right doesn't care, or maybe it's not.

    http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2012/oct/30/mitt-romney/mitt-romney-obama-chrysler-sold-italians-china-ame/



  15. Albert Kronwall
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    0 posts
    10/30/2012 9:10 PM
    Scott Wahlin, CGCS said:
    Albert Kronwall said: Once a lie is told you have to keep telling more and more, but eventually the truth comes out.


    In Romney's case it does not matter if the truth comes out or not, he just keeps lying and saying anything. It is baffling my the right doesn't care, or maybe it's not.

    http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2012/oct/30/mitt-romney/mitt-romney-obama-chrysler-sold-italians-china-ame/


    Your comment reminds me of something I heard when I was a child. "Yea and your Mama wears army boots" A phrase used by a child when he cannot think of anything to defend his position, so he is compelled to make personal attacks to try and discredit the opponent.

    Using Polifact as a fact checker doesn't give any credibility to your mud slinging, they are as neutral as MSNBC.



  16. Wahlin Scott B
    Wahlin Scott B avatar
    10/31/2012 8:10 AM
    Romney's Ongoing Lie

    [youtube">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VQ8P04q6jqE[/youtube">

    The Truth

    http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-10-30/chrysler-ceo-reiterates-jeep-suv-production-will-remain-in-u-s-.html

    PS: Albert's mother wears Army boots, at least that is what I heard.



  17. McCallum David K
    McCallum David K avatar
    10/31/2012 8:10 AM
    None of Romney's lies have resulted in the unnecessary killing of an American ambassador and a couple of former Navy Seals but who's counting bodies.



  18. Melvin Waldron
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    43 posts
    10/31/2012 10:10 AM
    David McCallum said: None of Romney's lies have resulted in the unnecessary killing of an American ambassador and a couple of former Navy Seals but who's counting bodies.


    Romney hasn't been in a position to have that happen to him. Carter, Reagan, Bush I, Clinton, Bush II, and now Obama have all been in that position, of course the cases I am thinking about with the others involved troops.

    Maybe Romney as president could avoid it, he might privatize or out source all that stuff if we go by his past record.

    Mel

    Melvin H. Waldron III, CGCS, Horton Smith Golf Course, City of Springfield/Greene County MO

  19. Niemier Rick A
    Niemier Rick A avatar
    10/31/2012 1:10 PM
    David McCallum said: None of Romney's lies have resulted in the unnecessary killing of an American ambassador and a couple of former Navy Seals but who's counting bodies.



    I'm glad to see you can finally admit that Romney does lie! :lol:



  20. Michael Wagner
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    0 posts
    11/1/2012 11:11 AM
    David McCallum said: None of Romney's lies have resulted in the unnecessary killing of an American ambassador and a couple of former Navy Seals but who's counting bodies.


    My own personal lies have not resulted in the unnecessary killing of anyone but that doesn't make me a better choice than Obama.



  21. McCallum David K
    McCallum David K avatar
    11/1/2012 2:11 PM
    You weren't on my ballot last week anyway. You were not a viable choice.



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