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  1. Albert Kronwall
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    6/4/2012 8:06 AM
    Imagine you won the lottery and now have $10,000,000 to manage. The caveat is you have to choose either Romney or Obama to manage your fortune.

    Which one would you choose to manage your money?



  2. Melvin Waldron
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    6/4/2012 10:06 AM
    Honestly, while Governor Romney has an investment background, and the smart money says I should invest with him, for some reason I feel he would be more worried about his fees and the profit he will make off my money then what I get out of it. Now granted I might end up with more money, but I am guessing at a bigger risk. If it's the only 10 million I'm going to get, I think President Obama would be more cautious in investing it for me. But this is more of a feeling of trust then of business sense. Plus with nothing to back me if my 10 million is lost in some capital investment, I just feel Governor Romney would feel bad but hey he still has his money to live on. And I don't mean this disrespectful, but I'm guessing he had some seed money from his father, or was more willing to take risks because of his family fortune. For some reason President Obama got to where he was without much help from anyone else and would be more understanding of how I would feel if he lost my windfall and would be more careful with it. Of course this is without sitting down with either and discussing the strategy to invest and safeguard at least some of that investment. They probably would both be competent. Just my opinion and honest answer.

    Mel

    Melvin H. Waldron III, CGCS, Horton Smith Golf Course, City of Springfield/Greene County MO

  3. Clay Putnam
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    6/4/2012 12:06 PM
    Mel being Mel.God bless ya.



  4. Ronald Kirkman
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    6/4/2012 5:06 PM
    Mr. Romney would be my choice. And, after a few years I would give some of that money to Mel because Mel is my friend even though he always walks on the left.

    Capt. Kirk
    Retired Alien
    Needham Golf Club
    Needham, MA 0249



  5. Keith Pegg
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    6/4/2012 6:06 PM
    Albert Kronwall said: Imagine you won the lottery and now have $10,000,000 to manage. The caveat is you have to choose either Romney or Obama to manage your fortune.

    Which one would you choose to manage your money?



    After years of praying to the heavens each morning, that I might win the lottery, today once again I looked into the bathroom mirror and said "please today let me win the lottery and for the first time the voice came back from the mirror; "you have got to buy a ticket".

    Choose either Romney or Obama to manage my money, NO WAY to both on that one.

    No Luck Keith



  6. Dennis Cook
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    6/7/2012 10:06 AM
    Melvin Waldron, CGCS said: Honestly, while Governor Romney has an investment background, and the smart money says I should invest with him, for some reason I feel he would be more worried about his fees and the profit he will make off my money then what I get out of it. Now granted I might end up with more money, but I am guessing at a bigger risk. If it's the only 10 million I'm going to get, I think President Obama would be more cautious in investing it for me. But this is more of a feeling of trust then of business sense. Plus with nothing to back me if my 10 million is lost in some capital investment, I just feel Governor Romney would feel bad but hey he still has his money to live on. And I don't mean this disrespectful, but I'm guessing he had some seed money from his father, or was more willing to take risks because of his family fortune. For some reason President Obama got to where he was without much help from anyone else and would be more understanding of how I would feel if he lost my windfall and would be more careful with it. Of course this is without sitting down with either and discussing the strategy to invest and safeguard at least some of that investment. They probably would both be competent. Just my opinion and honest answer.

    Mel


    Yea Obama would give it to Solyndra and you would end up with nothing. Romney has a solid background of investing and would net you much more



  7. Melvin Waldron
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    6/7/2012 10:06 AM
    Dennis Cook said:
    Melvin Waldron, CGCS said: Honestly, while Governor Romney has an investment background, and the smart money says I should invest with him, for some reason I feel he would be more worried about his fees and the profit he will make off my money then what I get out of it. Now granted I might end up with more money, but I am guessing at a bigger risk. If it's the only 10 million I'm going to get, I think President Obama would be more cautious in investing it for me. But this is more of a feeling of trust then of business sense. Plus with nothing to back me if my 10 million is lost in some capital investment, I just feel Governor Romney would feel bad but hey he still has his money to live on. And I don't mean this disrespectful, but I'm guessing he had some seed money from his father, or was more willing to take risks because of his family fortune. For some reason President Obama got to where he was without much help from anyone else and would be more understanding of how I would feel if he lost my windfall and would be more careful with it. Of course this is without sitting down with either and discussing the strategy to invest and safeguard at least some of that investment. They probably would both be competent. Just my opinion and honest answer.

    Mel


    Yea Obama would give it to Solyndra and you would end up with nothing. Romney has a solid background of investing and would net you much more


    No Dennis he wouldn't give it all the Solyndra, he gave some to GM, Chrysler and many other companies, kind of how Gov. Romney worked when he ran Bain. And given the information in my post "Gov. Romney's Record at Bain" about how well Bain Capital did when Gov. Romney was in charge, I don't think my return would be any better. Now according to that post, some of the others running Bain after Romney had better track records. Maybe I would invest with those guys.

    At least I had the guts to give an argument on who, why and how I would choose, instead of just sticking my head in the sand and going with the status quo, just because we think they would manage the money better.

    Mel

    Melvin H. Waldron III, CGCS, Horton Smith Golf Course, City of Springfield/Greene County MO

  8. Dennis Cook
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    6/8/2012 6:06 AM
    Yep Mel, Romeny had an 80% success rate at Bain, thats pretty good



  9. McCallum David K
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    6/8/2012 9:06 AM
    Mel Bain was private capital investment, private individuals put up their money in hopes of a return. The others you mentioned just happens to be the money of citizens of this country.......aka taxpayers.........we had NO say in that.



  10. Melvin Waldron
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    6/8/2012 10:06 AM
    David McCallum said: Mel Bain was private capital investment, private individuals put up their money in hopes of a return. The others you mentioned just happens to be the money of citizens of this country.......aka taxpayers.........we had NO say in that.


    David, you are correct, the problem that was being faced at the time of the auto bailouts was groups like Bain couldn't or wouldn't invest their money, so the government did it to help protect those businesses, and in their eyes the country as a whole.

    Dennis, 80% isn't too bad I guess, probably what the president did with the government's investment, the big loss Solyndra, the big winners GM and Chrysler. With the exception of where the money came from to invest, I don't see much difference between the two then.

    The big question that nobody discusses is what would have happened if the government didn't bail out the auto industry? I don't know if we really know, but when the economy was in the shape it was it, why take that chance? Heck even George W. supported the bailouts, as a matter of fact some started while he was still in office. Bain could have even if they invested into a business let it go bankrupt, but could we have really afford to let GM and Chrysler do it? Ford was even in agreement, I guess we could be all driving foreign cars now if we hadn't. And we complain about not enough manufacturing as it is. But all you guys will talk about is the give away to the auto unions, not the good it did for a bunch of middle class workers. Maybe this is why what happened in Wisconsin didn't happen in Ohio?

    Mel

    Melvin H. Waldron III, CGCS, Horton Smith Golf Course, City of Springfield/Greene County MO

  11. Dennis Cook
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    6/9/2012 4:06 AM
    OK Mel, then if there is much difference between Bain and what Obama is doing, then why the heck is Obama trying to demonize Bain?



  12. Melvin Waldron
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    6/9/2012 1:06 PM
    Dennis Cook said: OK Mel, then if there is much difference between Bain and what Obama is doing, then why the heck is Obama trying to demonize Bain?


    I don't know quite honestly, If he would just focus on Gov. Romney's record at Bain compared to other leaders of Bain, he would be better off, he needs to win independents, he's not getting republicans to vote for him, some of it might be to excite his base, just like republicans demonize things to excite their base. As many of us are learning and need to learn, that private capital is important to the economy just like government investment is. Government should concentrate on infrastructure and services, and private capital can invest in companies. I think the only reason to demonize capital investment companies is when they basically take over a company and end up gutting it and then leave the companies pensions plans, property clean-up and other issues caused when a company fails that falls on the government's shoulders to guarantee the pension plans, clean up environmental impact of a factory, and other like items. Maybe companies like Bain should be taxed, or even the companies themselves could be taxed (I know a dirty word) and have that money put into a dedicated funds to cover the issues I mentioned. I don't have a problem with a company making a profit, but they need to be good neighbors. It is just something I think should be thought of and debated.

    Mel

    Melvin H. Waldron III, CGCS, Horton Smith Golf Course, City of Springfield/Greene County MO

  13. Keith Pegg
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    6/10/2012 4:06 PM
    sorry miss post



  14. Keith Pegg
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    6/10/2012 4:06 PM
    Solyndra proves that energy-loan guarantees are a flop. Not exactly. The Energy Department's loan-guarantee program, enacted in 2005 with bipartisan support, has backed nearly $38 billion in loans for 40 projects around the country. Solyndra represents just 1.3 percent of that portfolio — and, as yet, it's the only loan that has soured. Other solar beneficiaries, such as SunPower and First Solar, are still going strong. Meanwhile, just a small fraction of loan guarantees go toward solar. The program's biggest bet to date is an $8.33 billion loan guarantee for a nuclear plant down in Georgia. Improper political influence in the process is disturbing, but, at least so far, Solyndra appears an exception, not a rule. (That said, the GAO and others have pointed out potential pitfalls and the need for stricter oversight in the loan program.)

    Keith



  15. Steven Kurta
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    6/12/2012 4:06 AM
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  16. McCallum David K
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    6/12/2012 9:06 AM
    If any of you guys do win the lottery you woould be smart to let me invest it..........Obama does not have a clue and Mitt has never invested his own money..........he had money managers and advisors for that. I can turn that $ 10,000,000 into $ 10,000,500 in a heart beat minus my fee of course. Just stay the course.



  17. Melvin Waldron
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    6/12/2012 10:06 AM
    David McCallum said: If any of you guys do win the lottery you woould be smart to let me invest it..........Obama does not have a clue and Mitt has never invested his own money..........he had money managers and advisors for that. I can turn that $ 10,000,000 into $ 10,000,500 in a heart beat minus my fee of course. Just stay the course.


    I would have to see how LSU football recruiting goes before I let you do any "investing"

    Mel

    Melvin H. Waldron III, CGCS, Horton Smith Golf Course, City of Springfield/Greene County MO

  18. McCallum David K
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    6/12/2012 11:06 AM
    Mel is that an off hand reference to the 'buying of players" ? Careful where you tread........FSU football has a long history of no so glorious results with their football team. It had a direct bearing on the departure of Max's uncle Bobby.



  19. Melvin Waldron
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    6/12/2012 11:06 AM
    David McCallum said: Mel is that an off hand reference to the 'buying of players" ? Careful where you tread........FSU football has a long history of no so glorious results with their football team. It had a direct bearing on the departure of Max's uncle Bobby.


    No buying of players just a reference on your investing methods with your "sports consultant".

    Mel

    Melvin H. Waldron III, CGCS, Horton Smith Golf Course, City of Springfield/Greene County MO

  20. McCallum David K
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    6/13/2012 9:06 AM
    Ah yes my little habit my wife hates but tolerates........."lose my money she says but DON'T get into OUR money".



  21. Steven Kurta
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    8/2/2012 3:08 PM
    A handy calculator that simply takes your information and plugs it into both campaign's published tax plans. Tell me again who's taking more of my money?

    http://www.barackobama.com/tax-calculator/



  22. Melvin Waldron
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    8/2/2012 9:08 PM
    Steven Kurta said: A handy calculator that simply takes your information and plugs it into both campaign's published tax plans. Tell me again who's taking more of my money?

    http://www.barackobama.com/tax-calculator/


    Wow, I better apply for that job in New York, I'm going to need to make more money if the governor gets elected.

    Mel

    Melvin H. Waldron III, CGCS, Horton Smith Golf Course, City of Springfield/Greene County MO

  23. Sean Hoolehan
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    8/3/2012 8:08 AM
    Mel,

    This would explain why you are still a Royals fan. I am pretty sure that President Obama has someone with Romneys background investing his own money. There is nothing to be ashamed of investing wisely.



  24. McCallum David K
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    8/3/2012 8:08 AM
    Sorry Sean you're wrong........nothing explains why someone is a Royals fan, an Astro's fan, a Cubs fan and yes even an Indians fan............



  25. Melvin Waldron
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    8/3/2012 9:08 AM
    David McCallum said: Sorry Sean you're wrong........nothing explains why someone is a Royals fan, an Astro's fan, a Cubs fan and yes even an Indians fan............


    Hey we just swept the Indians.....I don't know how but we did.

    Mel

    Melvin H. Waldron III, CGCS, Horton Smith Golf Course, City of Springfield/Greene County MO

  26. Steven Kurta
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    8/3/2012 4:08 PM
    What?

    http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/08/03/us-markets-stocks-idUSBRE86M08N20120803

    Close your eyes, cons. This is gonna sting a little.



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