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  1. Sandy Clark
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    3/4/2015 12:03 PM
    Did anyone on this forum hear anything that seemed demeaning or trivial in his presentation yesterday? Nothing new, no solutions, insulting, what is with these people? I clearly remember the captives in Iran and the barricade bombing in Lebanon. Do we really think we can broker a deal they will honor? Why would Obama and his crew think that? This regime has lied and killed people since the 70's. They are not moderate. The Prime Minister was accurate in everything he said. Kill them with sanctions and as a last resort, blow up every enrichment location they have. The people are fine but they are run by crazies. They will nuke Israel! What don't we seem to understand. Makes me think Obama is so grossly incompetent or terrible naive that he and Biden should immediately step down from their office. They are incapable of safely running our country! Pelosi should retire tomorrow! She is simply nuts. No gray here, we either fully stop them with Israel's help or they will use the bomb!



  2. Stephen Okula
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    3/4/2015 2:03 PM
    We'll need to invade Iran first to find out where all their nuclear facilities are. It's past time we did that anyway.

    Everyone knows that Israel's security is exactly the same as U.S. security. Myself, I think the Star of David should be added as the 51st star on the U.S. flag. Make Israel a State, so we have an excuse to invade and conquer the entire middle east. Once the Muslim world sees that we mean business, they'll back off and the terrorism will stop, and then we'll have control of all that oil, too.

    By the way, it was a barracks bombing in Beirut Lebanon, not a barricade bombing, and Ronald Reagan turned tail and ran like a little sissy, and that's exactly where all this jihadist stuff started.



  3. Melvin Waldron
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    3/4/2015 6:03 PM
    Saw on Stewart clips of the Prime Minister making the same comments back in the 90's.

    Mel

    Melvin H. Waldron III, CGCS, Horton Smith Golf Course, City of Springfield/Greene County MO

  4. Jon Gansen
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    3/5/2015 7:03 AM
    I watched the whole speech. My impression throughout was Bibi spoke as a leader in a very clear blunt manner.
    I feel we are revisiting history and this time if Iran gets a nuclear bomb there will be another holocaust but this time it will take minutes not years. Iran has made no bones about obliterating Israels people. They hate the USA, christians and any part of Islam that does not agree with them. Radical Islam is not a JV team as put by POTUS, they have used social media to show the world how brutal they are and what their intentions are. I dont know how anyone can NOT take ISIl. Iran and radical Islam serious? How can you look at Bibi and say its political, that he needed a formal invite, it was a slap in the face? He is defending his countries right to exist. Which is what our governments first priority should be. As far as Jon Stewart goes I wont even go there!!!!



  5. Sandy Clark
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    3/5/2015 8:03 AM
    I meant barracks! Brain and fingers were not on the same frequency. If you heard the same speech back in the 90's it doesn't make it any less of a concern. You still have crazies trying to blow up another nation because of ancient hatred. The goal has never changed, it is just getting closer to reality!



  6. Ronald Conard
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    3/5/2015 8:03 AM
    Sandy Clark, CGCS said: I meant barracks! Brain and fingers were not on the same frequency. If you heard the same speech back in the 90's it doesn't make it any less of a concern. You still have crazies trying to blow up another nation because of ancient hatred. The goal has never changed, it is just getting closer to reality!


    Sandy,

    With all due respect but is claiming the next catastrophe is here at every turn really any way live? Earth has always been on the verge of meltdown but some how or another our species keeps riding it out, even as we are the root cause of the problems. Eventually the dike may break but until then I'm not going to claim today is the day. Remember the imminent Ebola outbreak that was going to run rampant through the US because the administration was clueless? Me neither.

    At any rate wasn't this the same line Bibi put forth regarding Sadam's ability to produce nuclear weapons prior to the U.S. invading and finding out in fact, Iraq did not have that capability? That action is bearing fruit now due to a destabilized Iraq, right? We need to be aware that even our best intentions in matters like this seem to produce results we never intended.

    This is a thorny issue. Nobody wants Iran with a nuclear bomb and I think radical Islam has everyone's attention. But what's the solution? Is it in our national interest to destabilized Iran? Maybe a Shia counterbalance to the Sunni dominance in the region is actually something we need to consider. In the realm of international relations sometimes there are no good bedfellows to choose from. What then?

    I don't know what is in the "deal" with Iran. Can anyone else post the details? Without knowing maybe it's a little too early to hit the panic button. As off the wall as the Ayatollahs in Iran can be do you really think they are going to risk annihilation by nuking Tel Aviv?



  7. Melvin Waldron
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    3/5/2015 1:03 PM
    Jon, you can dis Stewart if you want but he did provide clips to show his same talking points from the 90's and also as Ron mentioned his support to attack Iraq. We see how that turned out. Stewart might have his leanings, and he can edit to prove his point, but at least he puts the info out there for us to think for ourselves.

    We should be concerned, but quite honestly I think the Prime Minister took advantage of the Republicans dislike of the President, and tried to improve his election chances at home. Political theater. He could have easily made his opinion known without the political drama.

    Mel.

    Melvin H. Waldron III, CGCS, Horton Smith Golf Course, City of Springfield/Greene County MO

  8. Wahlin Scott B
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    3/5/2015 4:03 PM
    What did the Israeli Prime Minister suggest we should do? It certainly was not to give peace a chance. What is the downside of talking? We can make war anytime.



  9. Joel Rhodes
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    3/6/2015 2:03 AM
    Iranian Military Brigades are in fact in Iraq right now. They are not invading Iraq. They are fighting ISIS. There are working with Iraqi troops to rid the area of Tirkrit of ISIS. They are not ISIS symathisers as some "news" agencies will have you believe. I agree with others here that running everything based on fear and supposed nuclear threats that have existed for 25 years is not the best strategic thinking proccess. Sanctions have worked. Let diplmomacy run its course.



  10. Jon Gansen
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    3/6/2015 8:03 AM
    Joel Rhodes said: Iranian Military Brigades are in fact in Iraq right now. They are not invading Iraq. They are fighting ISIS. There are working with Iraqi troops to rid the area of Tirkrit of ISIS. They are not ISIS symathisers as some "news" agencies will have you believe. I agree with others here that running everything based on fear and supposed nuclear threats that have existed for 25 years is not the best strategic thinking proccess. Sanctions have worked. Let diplmomacy run its course.


    Iran only wants to expand influence in the region for their ambitions. Apparently our adminstration is not to happy about Iran being there. Have sanctions worked? How many years does it take for diplomancy to run its course? I dont believe that just because the threats have existed for 25 years that they are any less real.



  11. Ronald Conard
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    3/6/2015 8:03 AM
    Jon Gansen said:
    Joel Rhodes said: Iranian Military Brigades are in fact in Iraq right now. They are not invading Iraq. They are fighting ISIS. There are working with Iraqi troops to rid the area of Tirkrit of ISIS. They are not ISIS symathisers as some "news" agencies will have you believe. I agree with others here that running everything based on fear and supposed nuclear threats that have existed for 25 years is not the best strategic thinking proccess. Sanctions have worked. Let diplmomacy run its course.


    Iran only wants to expand influence in the region for their ambitions. Apparently our adminstration is not to happy about Iran being there. Have sanctions worked? How many years does it take for diplomancy to run its course? I dont believe that just because the threats have existed for 25 years that they are any less real.


    Jon,

    It seems you're not in favor of sanctions or diplomacy. Are you suggesting a unilateral preemptive strike? If not then what are you suggesting? To me attacking Iran's nuclear facilities would guarantee the result we are all looking to avoid... a galvanized Iranian populace hell bent on a nuke and a politically unified Muslim world.

    Right now the Shia and the Sunnis are far from united. I think our best strategy is to keep it that way until the time comes when the entire Muslim world grows tired of the extremists in their ranks. We can't force that change. We've tried. It backfired. Maybe it's up to the rest of the world and especially Iran's Sunni neighbors to sweat the problem and take care of it, that is if the claim that Iran is only interested in expansion is true.



  12. Sandy Clark
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    3/6/2015 9:03 AM
    Iran's leaders just now again stated it's intent is the total destruction of Israel and the other terror groups want every Jew exterminated. If we were the country of Israel, I think we would be a little more militant and hawkish if we were faced with the threat of total elimination. We should get every civilized country on the planet to start working together with sanctions and a strong warning that another hint of destroying a country and it's people will result in a joint effort to destroy every nuke facility they have. I think you would even get the Saudi's and Jordanians going along with the plan. We let Hitler go early on and looked at the cost of that historical mistake. I am not saying attack Iran and it's people, just eliminate the nuke threat anyway necessary. In case any of you are foolish enough to think Iran won't make good on this threat, you are living in fantasy land. Should we try to clean up what is left after it is already over? I don't think so! How do you talk and negotiate with Islamic extremist leaders when it is their duty to lie to all apostates! Islam itself may not be the problem but the militant leaders happen to be extremists and they control the future of the people that live under their rule! Nice talk should be over. Tell them in very clear terms what the future will look like if they continue this pursuit. We need leaders that are not afraid to be tough. Right now, we are the laughing stock of every terror group in the world and you can include Russia, China, North Korea and Iran, the instigators of the turmoil around the world. We are weak and this is dangerous!



  13. Clay Putnam
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    3/6/2015 11:03 AM
    IMO Iran will work toward and acquire "the bomb" regardless of diplomacy, sanctions, military strikes, etc. Maybe it's a year from now maybe it's ten years from now. At that point the Middle East will be in an all-out nuclear race. Saudi Arabia has already said it will acquire nuclear arms if Iran moves forward with the U.S. deal. In the end, the Middle East will have nuclear rockets pointed at each other. I would like to believe the outcome would be similar to our Cold War with the Soviets but that's probably wishful thinking with the instability of the Middle East.



  14. Sandy Clark
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    3/6/2015 2:03 PM
    Clay, I hope you are wrong about Iran getting them anyway but either way, once that part of the world gets the bomb, it will be used. This is a religious thing that has far more fervor to it than the cold war. At least the U.S., Russia and eventually China all knew the results of using it and the end result would be terrible for all. Don't think the same restraint exist once you throw the religious domination idea in. I would just love to see the civilized world grow a pair, lay down the ultimatum and mean it, unlike Obama's frequent moving of red lines! I pray for my kids and grand kids. I fear the world could easily become even uglier place than it is heading for even today! Hell, I am going to live to be over 100, I guess I will see this mess!



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