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1. Steven Kurta

   

   2 posts
   
   10/25/2012 5:10 AM

   Because we have over a week to gawk at the mud-slinging.
   This week: Alleged Benghazi cover-up by incompetent administration vs. "Pregnancy from a rape should be looked at as a gift from god"
   GO!
   
   I got to listen to Glenn Beck again yesterday. He did 3 hours on Benghazi cover-up/incompetence/conspiracy. What I've learned about Beck and Limbaugh is the more irate they are, the weaker the story is. The more absolute they are, the more wrong they eventually are about the issue. And in the end it's all about selling adverts anyhow, so that all fits together. The Benghazi story is desperate weak sauce. Glenn Beck is a true piece of work. He'd be more interesting if he started drinking again.
   
   As far as the Mourdock's comments, well really, the entire Republican party's stance, Romney doesn't have enough time to flip/flop successfully, so he's hung his hat on this issue it seems. Quite a gamble.

   
   
   
   
2. Clay Putnam

   

   33 posts
   
   10/25/2012 6:10 AM

   Benghazi was bad timing and an embarrassment for the administration. Was it a true blue cover up? Nah, not in the true blue sense of the phrase. But lets be honest, the administration got caught with their pants at their ankles. The embassy asked for more security. Terrorists were involved. The extra security was not needed (according to this admin.) because terrorists were not suppose to be a problem. Add in the election and its not "optimal" timing. So, like any good politician the leftys tried to put lip stick and a skirt on that pig. The right would have done the same thing. It just so happened to be a democrat in office at the time. Additionally, I'm sure it was the underlings to the president who made the decisions on Benghazi. The president probably had no idea what was happening until it was too late. But, again, like any good politicians, the republicans pounced on the president as being incompetent. Which the president deserves to some extent, right? I mean the president hangs his hat on being tough on terrorists. "Osama is dead". How many times has the president tossed that out there? Live by the sword die by the sword.

   
   
   
   
3. Niemier Rick A

   
   10/25/2012 6:10 AM

   Clay Putnam, CGCS said: Benghazi was bad timing and an embarrassment for the administration. Was it a true blue cover up? Nah, not in the true blue sense of the phrase. But lets be honest, the administration got caught with their pants at their ankles. The embassy asked for more security. Terrorists were involved. The extra security was not needed (according to this admin.) because terrorists were not suppose to be a problem. Add in the election and its not "optimal" timing. So, like any good politician the leftys tried to put lip stick and a skirt on that pig. The right would have done the same thing. It just so happened to be a democrat in office at the time. Additionally, I'm sure it was the underlings to the president who made the decisions on Benghazi. The president probably had no idea what was happening until it was too late. But, again, like any good politicians, the republicans pounced on the president as being incompetent. Which the president deserves to some extent, right? I mean the president hangs his hat on being tough on terrorists. "Osama is dead". How many times has the president tossed that out there? Live by the sword die by the sword.

   
   
   You mean bayonet right?

   
   
   
   
4. McCallum David K

   
   10/25/2012 7:10 AM

   You might not think its a big deal, the president might not nor the main stream media but the familys of those that died might feel differently. The White House situation room had email confirmation within an hour or so of that attack confirming it was an ochestrated terrorist attack. But up to a week later the administration was still going on talk shows saying the video was the cause of it and its "under further investigation". Real simple.......the President of the United States LIED to the American public. Not the first him or others in that chair have done so and you can look for two more weeks of it. My vote was cast yesterday.
   
   And yes I think the Marine Corps still has about 600,000 bayonets. in stock ......not an important tool to have unless you don't have one when you finally do need one.

   
   
   
   
5. Keith Lamb

   

   3 posts
   
   10/25/2012 9:10 AM

   Clay Putnam, CGCS said: Benghazi was bad timing and an embarrassment for the administration. Was it a true blue cover up? Nah, not in the true blue sense of the phrase. But lets be honest, the administration got caught with their pants at their ankles. The embassy asked for more security. Terrorists were involved. The extra security was not needed (according to this admin.) because terrorists were not suppose to be a problem. .

   
   
   From what I have read the security request was for Tripoli, not Benghazi, so even if they had put more security in Tripoli it would have done the nothing to help what happened in Benghazi. But what do I know.

   
   
   
   
6. Ashton Alan W

   
   10/26/2012 11:10 AM

   David McCallum said: ...and you can look for two more weeks of it. My vote was cast yesterday.
   
   

   
   
   Not sure I like the underdog on the road... think I'd go with the home team.

   
   
   
   
7. Sandy Clark

   

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   10/29/2012 11:10 AM

   After two weeks of vacation from all of this I only have a couple of things to contribute. The Obama administration showed total incompetence by thinking if they are just nice to the new government, everything would be ok. Sorry, it doesn't work that way. Ask yourself an honest question. If this had happened during a republican presidency, how would the press be handling this? You certainly haven't heard people died and Obama lied! I am pretty sure you might have heard that if it was a republican. Where are all the good investigative journalists today? Nobody died in Watergate and Nixon would have won by a landslide without out it. People have died in this failure to anticipate and plan and the main stream press is pretty silent!

   
   
   
   
8. Melvin Waldron

   

   43 posts
   
   10/29/2012 11:10 AM

   Sandy Clark, CGCS said: After two weeks of vacation from all of this I only have a couple of things to contribute. The Obama administration showed total incompetence by thinking if they are just nice to the new government, everything would be ok. Sorry, it doesn't work that way. Ask yourself an honest question. If this had happened during a republican presidency, how would the press be handling this? You certainly haven't heard people died and Obama lied! I am pretty sure you might have heard that if it was a republican. Where are all the good investigative journalists today? Nobody died in Watergate and Nixon would have won by a landslide without out it. People have died in this failure to anticipate and plan and the main stream press is pretty silent!

   
   
   Sandy, the corporations that run the journalism outlets are more worried about money then the truth and the resources just aren't there. Sad in my opinion no matter which way you would normally lean.
   
   Mel

   
   Melvin H. Waldron III, CGCS, Horton Smith Golf Course, City of Springfield/Greene County MO
   
   
9. Steven Kurta

   

   2 posts
   
   10/30/2012 8:10 PM

   These are pretty awesome..
   
   http://www.usnews.com/news/blogs/washington-whispers/2012/10/29/conspiracy-theorists-say-obama-engineered-hurricane-sandy
   
   Romney campaign giving out supplies only to swing states, nothing for NY and NJ though...CLASSY! [size=85"> idiots [/size">
   http://thenewcivilrightsmovement.com/romney-donating-sandy-supplies-only-to-gop-swing-states-not-nj-or-ny/politics/2012/10/30/52648
   
   kind of feel sorry for Romney. Between his anti-FEMA record and Chris Christie publicly thanking the federal governement (obama) for such great assistance, he's gotta wonder when he'll catch a break.

   
   
   
   
10. Jon Gansen

    

    1 posts
    
    10/31/2012 7:10 AM

    [quote">Romney campaign giving out supplies only to swing states, nothing for NY and NJ though...CLASSY!
    
    Watched the news last nite and Romney was helping to load a truck headed for "New Jersey". Nothing was said why POTUS went to Florida ahead of the storm to campaign only to come back the next morning. (political decision not humanitarian). As for Christie he is true to his convictions he doesn't mince words and knows the difference between political and the good of the country and his state. Im sure if Romney did nothing we would hear about it so lets just leave the politics aside and either pray, send money or do what ever can be done for the people that have lost homes, business and lives. For us that haven't been touched by this devastation be thankful it wasn't us.

    
    
    
    
11. McCallum David K

    
    10/31/2012 8:10 AM

    Good post Jon. As someone who has gone through many hurricanes as have the guys in Florida, I do not wish what occured on anyone. A long slow recovery.

    
    
    
    
12. Steven Kurta

    

    2 posts
    
    10/31/2012 8:10 PM

    Jon Gansen said: lets just leave the politics aside and either pray, send money or do what ever can be done for the people that have lost homes, business and lives. For us that haven't been touched by this devastation be thankful it wasn't us.

    
    
    Careful you don't get a nosebleed up on that high road, Jon.
    
    
    http://www.theatlanticwire.com/politics/2012/10/5000-shopping-run-walmart-turned-romneys-campaign-stop-relief-event/58529/

    
    
    
    
13. Peter Bowman

    

    11 posts
    
    10/31/2012 9:10 PM

    Melvin Waldron, CGCS said:
    
    Sandy, the corporations that run the journalism outlets are more worried about money then the truth and the resources just aren't there. Sad in my opinion no matter which way you would normally lean.
    
    Mel

    
    
    Nice try, Mel. At least one of them has the resources. Actually, they all do, of course. All depends on what they want to do with those resources.
    
    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/10 ... ed-attack/
    
    Any other news organizations going to this extent? What has your favorite Jon Stewart had to say about this?

    
    
    
    
14. Steven Kurta

    

    2 posts
    
    10/31/2012 9:10 PM

    The closer the election is made to seem, the more money the conservative and liberal media outlets make, the closer the election is made to seem, the more money the conservative and liberal media outlets make...
    ..ad infinitum.
    
    
    What burns me is the hurricane is going to be blamed for Romney's loss. Somehow it won't be that, "Romney wasn't worth the risk of switching captains in the middle of a (economic) storm", it'll be "Romney lost because Sandy ruined his 'momentum'".
    I'll bet Pete a dollar I'm right, payable in San Diego.

    
    
    
    
15. Peter Bowman

    

    11 posts
    
    10/31/2012 10:10 PM

    Steven Kurta said:
    I'll bet Pete a dollar I'm right, payable in San Diego.

    
    
    Sure, no problem. Double or nothin' that no matter who wins the election, Obama will be exposed as the liar he is based on the Libya story apparently only Fox is working on. They had plenty of warning. He is/was too busy meeting with JZ and Beyonce and travelling to fundraiser in Vegas raising money for his re-election. Can't worry about security threats at times like that.
    
    It's a huge scandal/cover up and I could find nothing on CBS, ABC, NBC, MSNBC, or CNN websites with this latest news. Sandy is the best thing that could have happened to Obama.
    
    Make it 10 bucks.

    
    
    
    
16. Jon Gansen

    

    1 posts
    
    11/1/2012 7:11 AM

    Steven Kurta said:

    Jon Gansen said: lets just leave the politics aside and either pray, send money or do what ever can be done for the people that have lost homes, business and lives. For us that haven't been touched by this devastation be thankful it wasn't us.

    
    
    Careful you don't get a nosebleed up on that high road, Jon.
    
    
    http://www.theatlanticwire.com/politics/2012/10/5000-shopping-run-walmart-turned-romneys-campaign-stop-relief-event/58529/

    
    
    I may get nosebleeds but at the very least after that article Id be taking a shower to remove the mud you were wading in.

    
    
    
    
17. Peter Bowman

    

    11 posts
    
    11/1/2012 7:11 AM

    Interestingly enough, I've seen still photos of Obama showing extreme concern in the White House Situation Room with his staff as Bin Laden was meeting his maker and as Sandy was wreaking havoc, but nothing yet regarding Benghazi.
    
    Hilary is at least as culpable as the POTUS. Neither of them are smart enough to come up with the Muslim video idea to blame. That idea was drummed up probably by somebody like David Axelrod, since this story could not get in the way of Obama's reelection.

    
    
    
    
18. Steven Kurta

    

    2 posts
    
    11/1/2012 8:11 AM

    [quote">(a story) apparently only Fox is working on.
    
    If I had written:
    
    [quote">(a story) apparently only MSNBC is working on.
    
    You would have the same reaction as I just had; RED FLAG -- WARNING WILL ROBINSON, DANGER DANGER -- BEEP BOOP. DOES NOT COMPUTE.
    I couldn't expect you to take it seriously because MSNBC has a left-wing agenda that can't be trusted. So, why o earth wouldn't you pay the same consideration to FOX?
    
    FOX -- nope.
    MSNBC -- nope.
    MSN -- nope.
    
    Good mutual funds spread your money around to differing sectors to insulate you from wild dips in the market -- why not use the same logic to filter your news? Throw out the extreme viewpoints at both ends and settle for the middle. That's where the stability is. That's where the most sense is being made and the most accuracy is. Why wouldn't you want that? You want it for your money, if you're wise. And if the answer is "BECAUSE ALL MEDIA COVERAGE IS WRONG AND WE ARE RIGHT", then I don't know what will satisfy you. Probably nothing will. In which case, good luck.
    
    Controversies make ratings happen. It's in their best interest to rile you up. You see that, right?

    
    
    
    
19. Steven Kurta

    

    2 posts
    
    11/1/2012 8:11 AM

    [quote">after that article Id be taking a shower to remove the mud you were wading in.
    
    This is a public service I'm providing. I'm doing my part as an archivist so when it's all over and nobody remembers the BS that was heaped on people in attempt to sway and scare voters, that there's actual real-time evidence that dirty tricks are real and they're not exclusive to libruls. Don't make me post the comments out of GM and Chrysler today regarding Jeep -- I'll DO IT.
    
    Or are they marxists now too?

    
    
    
    
20. Peter Bowman

    

    11 posts
    
    11/1/2012 9:11 AM

    So the operative word is (story)? Change that to (investigative report) since that's what it is. Any other news organization, including every non-extreme ones you count on for unbiased news reporting this yet?
    
    I can wait. You had a tough time beating around my question.

    
    
    
    
21. Jon Gansen

    

    1 posts
    
    11/1/2012 9:11 AM

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IyJ34HIMJw4
    
    Investigative reporting http://dailycaller.com/2012/08/07/new-destined-for-tv-ad-attacks-obama-geithner-on-lost-delphi-pensions-video/2/
    They deserved it right? They werent union employees.

    
    
    
    
22. Sandy Clark

    

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    11/1/2012 9:11 AM

    You guys can knock Fox as being partisan and yes, Hannity as a commentator is right wing but like it or not, Fox is the only station that does any real investigative reporting. Fast and Furious was ignored by the main stream press and despite what a few of you think, it was a really big deal that was stonewalled by the administration. Benghazi is so bad that if the truth were to come out before the election, you would consider the actions of the President impeachable. Again, only Fox is actually looking into it. The overall position of the press is to help reelect Obama. If any investigative reporter was to look into the green industry and all the money this administration gave to the solar groups, that would be a huge scandal. Well over 50% of the companies (billions of dollars) that received government money have failed already. Others are close to failure. 85% of those companies receiving money were friends or donors to Obama. The people have been taken for $500 billion in the green industry give away and the decisions have been directly from Obama or his very top people. Again, where are the investigative, non-partisan reporters. The press was constantly after Bush over the economy and yet with far worse numbers, they praise the horrible numbers under this administration. The economy has actually slipped backwards the past two years and the press is silent. General or Government Motors stock is in the $25 range yet the press and Obama tout the success since the takeover. The stock needs to be at least $52 a share to simply break even. Has the press investigated this? We can talk about lies by candidates or the press all we want but isn't ignoring reality just as bad if not worse?

    
    
    
    
23. Steven Kurta

    

    2 posts
    
    11/1/2012 10:11 AM

    I'll keep it short..
    
    I know it's hard to watch this happen
    
    we librul scum went through it when bush was re-elected in the face of what was going on then - it was unbelievable to us that he could be re-elected, yet shazam..stuff happened
    
    We feel your pain
    
    Walk it off.
    
    See you in 2016. Hey maybe Christie, eh!?
    
    And as for your "outrage"? Save it. It makes you look disingenuous. Plus, we know better.

    
    
    
    
24. Sandy Clark

    

    0 posts
    
    11/1/2012 12:11 PM

    Steve, for the record, my prediction is a Romney victory next week. We will soon see which of us will have the most uncomfortable next 4 years. Thank goodness it is almost over.

    
    
    
    
25. Stephen Okula

    

    3 posts
    
    11/1/2012 12:11 PM

    Sandy Clark, CGCS said: Benghazi is so bad that if the truth were to come out before the election, you would consider the actions of the President impeachable. Again, only Fox is actually looking into it. The overall position of the press is to help reelect Obama. If any investigative reporter was to look into the green industry and all the money this administration gave to the solar groups, that would be a huge scandal. Well over 50% of the companies (billions of dollars) that received government money have failed already. Others are close to failure. 85% of those companies receiving money were friends or donors to Obama. The people have been taken for $500 billion in the green industry give away and the decisions have been directly from Obama or his very top people. Again, where are the investigative, non-partisan reporters. The press was constantly after Bush over the economy and yet with far worse numbers, they praise the horrible numbers under this administration. The economy has actually slipped backwards the past two years and the press is silent. General or Government Motors stock is in the $25 range yet the press and Obama tout the success since the takeover. The stock needs to be at least $52 a share to simply break even. Has the press investigated this? We can talk about lies by candidates or the press all we want but isn't ignoring reality just as bad if not worse?

    
    
    Could you please point to where I could verify those numbers?

    
    
    
    
26. Larry Allan

    

    0 posts
    
    11/1/2012 1:11 PM

    Stephen Okula, CGCS said:

    Sandy Clark, CGCS said: Benghazi is so bad that if the truth were to come out before the election, you would consider the actions of the President impeachable. Again, only Fox is actually looking into it. The overall position of the press is to help reelect Obama. If any investigative reporter was to look into the green industry and all the money this administration gave to the solar groups, that would be a huge scandal. Well over 50% of the companies (billions of dollars) that received government money have failed already. Others are close to failure. 85% of those companies receiving money were friends or donors to Obama. The people have been taken for $500 billion in the green industry give away and the decisions have been directly from Obama or his very top people. Again, where are the investigative, non-partisan reporters. The press was constantly after Bush over the economy and yet with far worse numbers, they praise the horrible numbers under this administration. The economy has actually slipped backwards the past two years and the press is silent. General or Government Motors stock is in the $25 range yet the press and Obama tout the success since the takeover. The stock needs to be at least $52 a share to simply break even. Has the press investigated this? We can talk about lies by candidates or the press all we want but isn't ignoring reality just as bad if not worse?

    
    
    Could you please point to where I could verify those numbers?

    
    Fox?

    
    
    
    
27. Wahlin Scott B

    
    11/1/2012 2:11 PM

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