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1. Albert Kronwall

   

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   9/21/2012 10:09 AM

   It irritates the h*** out of me that the MSM is no longer a watchdog for the people. It has become the facilitator for this administration to do what ever it wants and know that the MSM will not report on ill effects of their actions to the rest of the country. It seems to me that this administration is writing the script for the MSM and they obediently comply. People that are only casual news watchers don't realize they are getting a skewed view of history, and it's scary that they will vote to determine the future of this country. With the MSM and this administration working together to get Obama re-elected I am worried that my children could inherit a country that is no longer free, and for the first time in history a country that is worse than the one the previous generation left.

   
   
   
   
2. Melvin Waldron

   

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   9/21/2012 11:09 AM

   Albert Kronwall said: It irritates the h*** out of me that the MSM is no longer a watchdog for the people. It has become the facilitator for this administration to do what ever it wants and know that the MSM will not report on ill effects of their actions to the rest of the country. It seems to me that this administration is writing the script for the MSM and they obediently comply. People that are only casual news watchers don't realize they are getting a skewed view of history, and it's scary that they will vote to determine the future of this country. With the MSM and this administration working together to get Obama re-elected I am worried that my children could inherit a country that is no longer free, and for the first time in history a country that is worse than the one the previous generation left.

   
   
   Andy, can you elaborate on what you think is not getting reported? In my opinion reading your comments, and like I say, it's an opinion, it sounds like you have gotten your news from Fox, Rush and the like since you've sounded like the scary things they report on has effected you.
   
   I have heard part of the problem has been the news industry itself because of them cutting cost and all. An analogy was talked about (sorry it was I believe on MSNBC) a few weeks ago, that back in the day when major cities had two or three newspapers, the reporters were more deleigent in their reporting and fact checking because if they didn't they would get scooped or shown-up that they didn't do due deligence in their reporting when the other newspaper would take them to task, sort of a checks and balance type thing and of course when a newspaper wasn't doing their job, they would lose readers. With the news scources today with the internet and all, how are we really sure on the quality of the news reporting? Part of the problem with reporters now, they don't fact check themselves, they allow the "fact checkers" to do it for them, and there have been complaints that some fact check groups or more l iberal or conservitive.
   
   And people scoff at the Jon Stewarts and Steven Colberts, hey their reporting is as good as anybody's in my opinion. (sorry for mis-spellings the spell check is acting up)
   
   Mel

   
   Melvin H. Waldron III, CGCS, Horton Smith Golf Course, City of Springfield/Greene County MO
   
   
3. Albert Kronwall

   

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   9/21/2012 3:09 PM

   Mel
   
   I watch local and national ABC, CBS, NBC, as well as MSNBC, and FOX. I do this so I get to see what all sides are reporting and then I make my own conclusions. I don't watch Stewart or Colbert, they are comedy/satire of the news, not real news. That's why they are on the comedy channel.
   
   This is just one example of many:
   A few nights ago I was watching NBC and they spent almost six minutes distorting Romney's comment in May that 47 percent of Americans pay no income taxes and "believe that they are entitled to health care, to food, to housing, to you-name-it". I for one believe this to be true and the statistics back him up. Once someone gets free money they will never vote for someone who may take it away. example: Attempt to recall WI Gov. Walker for ACT 10
   
   Then they spent less than one minute on the torture and killing of our ambassador and three others on 9/11 in Libya. A week after it happened they were still blaming it on a you tube movie trailer instead of calling it what it was, pre-planned terrorism.
   
   Which story do you think is more important? I think the terrorism attack and killing of US citizens deserve more "news tim" then a comment Romney made back in May.
   
   Can you imagine what the MSM would have done to G.W Bush if the middle-east was in flames and he went to Las Vegas to campaign, appear on Letterman, and party with JayZ instead of tend to his presidential duties. They would have torn Bush apart and it would have been 24/7 of bashing. All I saw were clips of Obama yukin it up with Letterman

   
   
   
   
4. Stephen Okula

   

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   9/21/2012 3:09 PM

   Albert Kronwall said: I am worried that my children could inherit a country that is no longer free, and for the first time in history a country that is worse than the one the previous generation left.

   
   
   Good point. The Great Depression, the Civil War, Viet Nam, and Watergate are all underrated, in my opinion. Every one left that generation better off than the previous one.

   
   
   
   
5. Stephen Okula

   

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   9/21/2012 3:09 PM

   Albert Kronwall said: Mel
   
   This is just one example of many:
   A few nights ago I was watching NBC and they spent almost six minutes distorting Romney's comment in May that 47 percent of Americans pay no income taxes and "believe that they are entitled to health care, to food, to housing, to you-name-it".
   
   You're confusing people who don't earn enough to pay income taxes with people who don't work, or are retired. There's a huge difference to getting a tax break and free-loading. Mitt himself loves his tax breaks. By the way, I work, earn my own way, support my family, pay U.S taxes, I voted for Obama, and I know others like me. So that makes Romney's statement untrue.
   
   Can you imagine what the MSM would have done to G.W Bush if the middle-east was in flames and he went to Las Vegas to campaign, appear on Letterman, and party with JayZ instead of tend to his presidential duties.

   
   
   The middle east was in flames during the Bush administration, a raging inferno, in fact, a five-alarm fire, and he went to his ranch in Texas for vacation, every summer, for over a month, without fail, AND he campaigned for his second term.
   
   How was he any better?

   
   
   
   
6. Albert Kronwall

   

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   9/22/2012 6:09 AM

   Stephen Okula, CGCS said:

   Albert Kronwall said: Mel
   
   
   You're confusing people who don't earn enough to pay income taxes with people who don't work, or are retired. There's a huge difference to getting a tax break and free-loading. Mitt himself loves his tax breaks. By the way, I work, earn my own way, support my family, pay U.S taxes, I voted for Obama, and I know others like me. So that makes Romney's statement untrue.

   
   I don't see how your example makes Romney's statement untrue. He was making the point that 47% of the american population do not pay taxes. Most (not all) of those people are not going to vote for him because they wouldn't want to risk possibly having to pay any tax. The same could be said for some of the people collecting a government entitlement, they are not going to vote for someone who may reinstate Clinton's welfare reform work requirement.
   
   The middle east was in flames during the Bush administration, a raging inferno, in fact, a five-alarm fire, and he went to his ranch in Texas for vacation, every summer, for over a month, without fail, AND he campaigned for his second term.
   
   How was he any better?

   
   
   
   
7. Wahlin Scott B

   
   9/22/2012 6:09 AM

   Nothing has changed about the 1996 welfare work requirement. This is a lie perpetuated by the right for people who want to believe it for one reason or another. And to increase David's blood pressure, Sarah Palin is not smart and a video:
   
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8. Albert Kronwall

   

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   9/22/2012 8:09 AM

   I would have bet $100 that the first reply would blame Bush on the Middle East turmoil, I was wrong it was the second reply. The Middle East has been at war for thousands of years, and probably will be until the end of time.
   After terrorists killed thousands of Americans by bringing down the twin towers on 9/11 G.W. Bush stood united with the surviving firefighters and policemen on the pile of rubble. Using a bullhorn he announced to the world that an attack against the American people and an attack against freedom would not go unpunished. He promised to use every resource of the USA to hunt down and bring the terrorists responsible to justice.
   When terrorists attacked and killed Americans at the embassy in Libya Obama and Hillary apologized for the insensitivity toward the Muslim religion. Then went on to quickly push blame on a "shady character" that posted a 13-minute movie trailer on You Tube. Come on, how stupid do they think we are? Who didn't think immediately that an attack on an American Embassy in the Middle East killing Americans on the anniversary of 9/11 wasn't premeditated terrorism?
   They wanted to quickly put the blame of the attack on this "shady character" before anyone brought up the "spiking the football" routine at the DNC just weeks earlier. The reoccurring battle cry "GM IS ALIVE AND OSAMA IS DEAD" used by Obama and Biden to fire up the democrats may have been enough to piss the terrorists off. Or, maybe the anti-religion movie made by Bill Maher, the million-dollar contributor to Obama, called "Religulous" may have been the fuel. It rips all religions including the Muslim religion. I didn't see where Bill Maher was singled out and taken in for questioning by the FBI like the "shady character" was.
   Obama and Hillary are now condemning insensitivity toward all religions and saying it won't be tolerated. But, just weeks ago Hillary gave rave reviews to the musical comedy "The Book Of Mormon" a satirical, blasphemous attack on the Mormon religion. I haven't heard that the producers or actors of this musical have been taken in for questioning by the FBI, have you? Do you not see the hypocrisy, inconsistency and weakness of this administration?

   
   
   
   
9. Jon Gansen

   

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   9/22/2012 11:09 AM

   Albert Kronwall said: It irritates the h*** out of me that the MSM is no longer a watchdog for the people. It has become the facilitator for this administration to do what ever it wants and know that the MSM will not report on ill effects of their actions to the rest of the country. It seems to me that this administration is writing the script for the MSM and they obediently comply. People that are only casual news watchers don't realize they are getting a skewed view of history, and it's scary that they will vote to determine the future of this country. With the MSM and this administration working together to get Obama re-elected I am worried that my children could inherit a country that is no longer free, and for the first time in history a country that is worse than the one the previous generation left.

   
   
   I will give a prime example. The Univision interview of POTUS. All of the mainstream media quoted as saying they were surprised at the tough questions from Univision. Most every news outlet is in the Obamas back pocket.
   Just out yesterday 60% of the people dont trust mass media.

   
   
   
   
10. Steven Kurta

    

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    9/22/2012 10:09 PM

    When you want truly balanced online news, go with Google's. It gives you everyone's news, FOX, Christian science monitor, Washington post, national review, New York Times, al Jazeera ..you pick. they're all in a row for you to peruse.

    
    
    
    
11. McCallum David K

    
    9/24/2012 7:09 AM

    Scott no problem with the blood pressure.....all those years of excercise I guess.....Friday it was 108 over 74 before a surgical procedure......the nurse commented you are pretty relaxed it appears.....yeah waiting on a video from my buddy down in Florida over the weekend. Laughter is good and he always makes me laugh.
    
    Steve I would think the generation after the Civil War (politically incorrect term as you should know) was better off. Ended slavery, right? Thats a plus. Obviously after the Great Depression was better than before, right? We learned somethings from Vietnam (but apparently not enough) and from Watergate so I am guessing those behind us were a little better off. Not sure the next generation will say the same but just my opinion.
    
    The main stream media has changed greatly in my lifetime.....from the days of Walter Cronkite, David Brinkley, Chet Huntley and others cut from their cloth. They seldom gave their opinion but merely reported the news of the day......today every reporter wants to be the story and thinks we are to dumb to make our own minds up and we must get his or her opinion of what we are watching.

    
    
    
    
12. Melvin Waldron

    

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    9/24/2012 8:09 AM

    David McCallum said: Scott no problem with the blood pressure.....all those years of excercise I guess.....Friday it was 108 over 74 before a surgical procedure......the nurse commented you are pretty relaxed it appears.....yeah waiting on a video from my buddy down in Florida over the weekend. Laughter is good and he always makes me laugh.
    
    Steve I would think the generation after the Civil War (politically incorrect term as you should know) was better off. Ended slavery, right? Thats a plus. Obviously after the Great Depression was better than before, right? We learned somethings from Vietnam (but apparently not enough) and from Watergate so I am guessing those behind us were a little better off. Not sure the next generation will say the same but just my opinion.
    
    The main stream media has changed greatly in my lifetime.....from the days of Walter Cronkite, David Brinkley, Chet Huntley and others cut from their cloth. They seldom gave their opinion but merely reported the news of the day......today every reporter wants to be the story and thinks we are to dumb to make our own minds up and we must get his or her opinion of what we are watching.

    
    
    Hey David they got their new iPhone 5's this weekend, they probably think they are better off.
    
    Mel

    
    Melvin H. Waldron III, CGCS, Horton Smith Golf Course, City of Springfield/Greene County MO
    
    
13. Sandy Clark

    

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    9/24/2012 10:09 AM

    A quick example of media bias would be thirteen stories on Romney and the 47% comment to every one story about Obama stating his belief in redistribution. If it was truly fair and balanced, the stories should be pretty close to equal since they are both referencing economical and campaign related issues. It doesn't matter that Obama said that in 1998 because he told Joe the Plumber the same thing four years ago. Romney criticizes the handling of the Egypt / Libya mess and the press spend more time on knocking his criticism than the obvious failure of the Obama administration putting out proper information on the facts. It now comes out that the New York Times was aware of more information than was given to our own Congress!

    
    
    
    
14. Stephen Okula

    

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    9/24/2012 1:09 PM

    David,
    
    What? The historical "Civil War" is not good enough anymore? That's news to me, but then I've been out of the country.
    
    What is it now? War Between the States (political)? War of Secession (ideological)? The North/South War (geographical)? The Blue and the Grey (colorful)? Lincoln's War (personal)?

    
    
    
    
15. McCallum David K

    
    9/25/2012 8:09 AM

    Just trying to keep Scott off your back.........political correctness is so important in today's world.