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  1. Sandy Clark
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    3/16/2016 11:03 AM
    Boy, I guess the conservatives want to shoot themselves in the foot. Third Party, brokered convention, why not just crown Hillary now? Yuk. Played golf with a lady Monday, she made a good comment, would you rather vote for a bigot as Trump is being called or for a murderer. Amazing that Hillary forgot about people actually dying in Libya. The lady said personally, she would prefer the accused bigot! This will be the ugliest and nastiest election ever. If it is Trump and Clinton, can you imagine the dirt they will raise on each other. If it is a brokered convention, lots of voters will walk and either not vote or vote for someone other than either candidate. I suppose somehow Cruz can still pull it off but no matter how you cut it, it will be ugly.



  2. Ronald Kirkman
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    3/16/2016 6:03 PM
    Hi Sandy;

    Saw on the news today (NOT FOX NEWS) Hillary was endorsed by someone in CA - forget his name but he is the big KKK out there. So far, Hillary has not Dis - A - Vowed him.

    Cruz can not get the proper amount of delegates. Cruz's team got him more votes in Iowa because of what he did to Doctor Carson. He had to fire the head of his team for doing the same thing in Hawaii. Senator Cruz is heading into an area where Trump is well liked. Trump will win and I'm sure the elite will do everything in their power to knock Trump out.

    Kasich should drop out of the race. However, he won't because he thinks whatever they do at the Convention in Cleveland he will come out a winner. And, he wants to give complete Amnesty to all the illegals and that will not get him many votes.

    Capt.Kirk
    Retired Alien
    Needham Golf Club
    Needham, MA



  3. Kevin Fateley
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    3/17/2016 8:03 AM
    Sandy,

    I have a few "beer bets" with my friends that someone other than Hillary we be nominated at the convention. It is common knowledge that the Obama's and Clinton's are not friendly after their election process in 8 years ago. I predict she will be indicted (Obama's call) and Biden will enter the election at the convention. Fully rested, ready to run and actually a brilliant tactical political move. Now for the "pretzel bet" he will have a female running mate.

    Kevin Fateley
    Wildcat Creek Fun & Fitness
    fly-over country Kansas



  4. Sandy Clark
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    3/17/2016 11:03 AM
    Kevin, funny you say that because way back when Biden gave his not running speech, it sure seemed to leave the door open in case she crashes and burns with this FBI investigation. Guess the guy that received immunity has been pretty damaging to her. Don't know if any of this will be good for the country but it is sure going to be drama and entertainment. Problem is that we will end up on the short end as citizens somehow. If I have to, my vote will go for Trump, never Hillary, just too corrupt. Maybe the political class needs a real eye opener and break up business as usual. Sad thing is if you are pro legal immigration, you become a bigot and if you are concerned about security with this refuge nightmare, you are anti Muslim and a bigot. If you like Trump and dislike Hillary, you are in the middle of the phony war on women. Voting public like usual is ignored and not listened to.



  5. David Brandenburg
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    3/18/2016 8:03 AM
    First off I think the entire thing is a big mess. Not sure I want to vote for any of these people they way this is going.

    Trump serves a purpose for people who are tired of the two parties not really getting much done and making back room deals to pass bills.Trumps negatives speak for themselves but the guy is a salesman and dam good at selling himself.

    My understanding of the brokered convention on the republican side which we more than likely will have because no one will have the required delegate count is: For the first vote delegates must vote for the candidate the election said they should. Candidates suspend their campaign so they keep control of their delegates. After the first vote and no one has the required count it is basically a free for all and any and all candidates or someone who was not even in the race can be nominated.

    As long as Kasich and Cruz both stay in the race Trump will have the most delegates but probably not enough to win so all hell will break loose. If the nominee is Trump, the world will be a different place and the general election will be interesting if nothing else. The press will turn on Trump but he will give Hillary a fight.

    If the nominee is not Trump there are going to be a lot of hacked off voters who will push for a third party run and if they do not get it will not vote at all.

    As I said in the beginning the thing is a big mess... but maybe we need a big mess to bring us together and get something done.



  6. Peter Bowman
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    3/18/2016 9:03 AM
    Sandy Clark, CGCS said: ...... Guess the guy that received immunity has been pretty damaging to her.


    He will die in a single car accident, head on to a brick wall at 80 miles an hour. They will call it suicide.



  7. Stephen Ravenkamp
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    3/18/2016 11:03 AM
    My take on the Trump issue is that most of the voters who are voting for him are not actually "for" him. They are voting with their middle finger and, if given the option, would vote for "none of the above." I think the backlash against "professional" politicians is short-sighted. Yes, there are absolutely politicians who are in the pocket of special interests but, as in any occupation, someone who has spent their life doing something "should" be better than an amateur. Would you go to a doctor who wasn't a professional? The real blame should be placed on the people who keep voting these special interest guys into office, or the majority of the population who don't vote at all. How many times have you heard, "throw them all out, just not my representative?" Politics has become a "zero-sum game" and the political parties have realized that it is not about the issues any more, it's about "reality-show entertainment." Most of the voting public is too lazy to dig into the facts and is going to accept anything they are told often enough, particularly if it is sensationalized.

    Steve Ravenkamp, CGCS
    Apache Stronghold Golf Resort



  8. Steve Nelson
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    3/18/2016 11:03 AM
    I'm no fan of Hillary, but isn't 'murderer' a bit much?



  9. Sandy Clark
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    3/18/2016 11:03 AM
    Steve, I can't argue with you. When you see people go out on the street and interview people on political or world event related issues, most have more knowledge of some rapper or a TV so-called reality show and don't even know the name of a Supreme Court Justice, the VP or even a local politician. Probably 60% of the population live with their heads in the sand and have no understanding of how anything political works. Too many vote because they get something free. When they do vote it is based on an add they saw with no studying of the issue or candidate. Gee, look how much power the few of us that vote really hold. We control America, well at least when we think our guy is in charge!



  10. Sandy Clark
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    3/18/2016 12:03 PM
    Gus, that was the opinion of a retired law enforcement officer. Not necessarily an opinion everyone will agree on. Personally, I just can't stand the woman. I don't care what party she is in, I would feel the same way if she was conservative. I just find her to be an angry, bitter, very divisive character with far more negatives than positives



  11. James Schmid
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    3/18/2016 12:03 PM
    Sandy Clark, CGCS said: Steve, I can't argue with you. When you see people go out on the street and interview people on political or world event related issues, most have more knowledge of some rapper or a TV so-called reality show and don't even know the name of a Supreme Court Justice, the VP or even a local politician. Probably 60% of the population live with their heads in the sand and have no understanding of how anything political works. Too many vote because they get something free. When they do vote it is based on an add they saw with no studying of the issue or candidate. Gee, look how much power the few of us that vote really hold. We control America, well at least when we think our guy is in charge!



    60%? that seems pretty generous. I would think its closer to 90%. Or more



  12. James Schmid
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    3/18/2016 12:03 PM
    Stephen Ravenkamp, CGCS said: My take on the Trump issue is that most of the voters who are voting for him are not actually "for" him. They are voting with their middle finger and, if given the option, would vote for "none of the above."

    Steve Ravenkamp, CGCS
    Apache Stronghold Golf Resort



    There is an option for none of the above. Voting for a 3rd party candidate is voting for none of the above



  13. Larry Allan
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    3/18/2016 1:03 PM
    Sooo, as an interested outsider, how many of you would consider that Trump can win the nomination and then go on to win the Presidency?

    The guy seems like a lunatic reality game show host to me but what is the general take on him down there?



  14. Steve Nelson
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    3/18/2016 2:03 PM
    I hear you Sandy, but I think I'll keep my criticisms to liar and sleaze ball. :D



  15. Melvin Waldron
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    3/19/2016 1:03 PM
    Sandy Clark, CGCS said: Gus, that was the opinion of a retired law enforcement officer. Not necessarily an opinion everyone will agree on. Personally, I just can't stand the woman. I don't care what party she is in, I would feel the same way if she was conservative. I just find her to be an angry, bitter, very divisive character with far more negatives than positives


    Did he also give that opinion of Secretary Rice and Powell, due to deaths at other US Embassy's during President Bush's terms? Or was it only Secretary Rice who had one American killed in an attack on the Pakistani embassy? Do the other deaths not count because they weren't Americans? While I respect law enforcement officers, I would like to know what this retired law enforcement officer's specialty is. I would prefer to hear how the military leaders classified the deaths. Their testimony during all the hearings could not prove the Secretary did anything wrong. In hindsight hopefully things were learned, the current and future Secretaries provide better security options and the Republicans up the spending on Embassy protection, just like they want to spend money on arming the military, and hopefully they will start spending money on the veterans who served this country.

    Of course some of the biggest attacks occurred during President Clinton and Reagan years, with the biggest under Reagan occurred at the Marine Barracks (not listed on the embassy attack list). I haven't heard they were called murders either.

    I'm not a huge fan of Secretary Clinton either, but until we get over the hate, good candidates will not enter the political area in my opinion, and that is why she unfortunately is one of the better choices this election season.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attacks_o ... facilities

    Mel

    Melvin H. Waldron III, CGCS, Horton Smith Golf Course, City of Springfield/Greene County MO

  16. Melvin Waldron
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    3/19/2016 1:03 PM
    Sandy Clark, CGCS said: Steve, I can't argue with you. When you see people go out on the street and interview people on political or world event related issues, most have more knowledge of some rapper or a TV so-called reality show and don't even know the name of a Supreme Court Justice, the VP or even a local politician. Probably 60% of the population live with their heads in the sand and have no understanding of how anything political works. [b]Too many vote because they get something free[/color[/color]][/b]. When they do vote it is based on an add they saw with no studying of the issue or candidate. Gee, look how much power the few of us that vote really hold. We control America, well at least when we think our guy is in charge!


    I can agree voters are not educating themselves and listen to their preferred media choices both left and right, the angry talking heads, who fuel hate and loathing, the mainstream media (mainly the small city and town newspapers and stations) who due to cost will not staff themselves with good political reporters who can write stories and educate people.

    Don't blame all the voting results on people looking for free stuff, since most states have turned Republican. I think too many vote because someone has said they are being prosecuted, their religious freedoms are being taken away, all those people on welfare are taking your hard earned money, but don't complain when big corporations are given tax breaks and subsidies that make spending on safety net programs look like chump change.

    I thought Rubio was a decent candidate until he tried to move right of Cruz, and brought religion into the debate. While I love the little baby Jesus as much as the next Christian, I find these politicians and their followers on the right that claim we need God back in schools and Government make me think....."Why don't you take some responsibility and you get your kids and yourself to get some God in your lives, take responsibility for yourselves, just like you demand of those who might have to take advantage of safety nets."

    Ok off my soap box.

    Mel

    Melvin H. Waldron III, CGCS, Horton Smith Golf Course, City of Springfield/Greene County MO

  17. Steven Huffstutler
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    3/21/2016 12:03 PM
    Larry Allan said: Sooo, as an interested outsider, how many of you would consider that Trump can win the nomination and then go on to win the Presidency?

    The guy seems like a lunatic reality game show host to me but what is the general take on him down there?


    "A person is smart. People are stupid, panicky animals and you know it."
    Agent K

    Gather 10 people together, they each lose an IQ point.
    Gather a thousand, what's left are at caveman level Idiocy.
    Gather a million, you have Donald Trump as a Presidential candidate



  18. Ronald Kirkman
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    3/22/2016 8:03 PM
    T P T

    R M R


    U U U



    M R M


    P T P


    Take That JR.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Capt. Kirk
    Retired Alien
    Needham Golf Club
    Needham, MA



  19. Peter Bowman
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    3/22/2016 8:03 PM
    Steven Huffstutler, CGCS said:
    Larry Allan said: Sooo, as an interested outsider, how many of you would consider that Trump can win the nomination and then go on to win the Presidency?

    The guy seems like a lunatic reality game show host to me but what is the general take on him down there?


    "A person is smart. People are stupid, panicky animals and you know it."
    Agent K

    Agent K? Is that from Get Smart?

    Gather 10 people together, they each lose an IQ point.
    Gather a thousand, what's left are at caveman level Idiocy.
    Gather a million, you have Donald Trump as a Presidential candidate.......and the other 65 million+ voted for Barack Obama. TWICE!



  20. Steven Huffstutler
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    3/23/2016 1:03 PM
    So Pete, are you saying that Trump is the same as Obama?



  21. Peter Bowman
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    3/23/2016 4:03 PM
    No.



  22. Steven Huffstutler
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    3/23/2016 8:03 PM
    It amuses me that some people hate what they see as an Obama imperial Presidency while supporting Donald Trump who mimics the classic South American or African strongman.



  23. Peter Bowman
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    3/23/2016 8:03 PM
    I never said Trump was my man, but I can assure you Bernie will never be, and Hilary will never be my woman.

    I was just responding to your gather 10, gather a thousand, gather a million comment. By the way, cavemen deserve more respect than that.



  24. Steven Huffstutler
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    3/24/2016 7:03 AM
    Peter Bowman, CGCS said: I never said Trump was my man, but I can assure you Bernie will never be, and Hilary will never be my woman.

    I was just responding to your gather 10, gather a thousand, gather a million comment. By the way, cavemen deserve more respect than that.


    Agreed. Cavemen are much maligned.
    It's gonna be hard to vote this year, for sure but I will never vote for Trump. I might vote for Hillary just to piss Tracy off.



  25. Melvin Waldron
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    3/24/2016 2:03 PM
    Steven Huffstutler, CGCS said:
    Peter Bowman, CGCS said: I never said Trump was my man, but I can assure you Bernie will never be, and Hilary will never be my woman.

    I was just responding to your gather 10, gather a thousand, gather a million comment. By the way, cavemen deserve more respect than that.


    Agreed. Cavemen are much maligned.
    It's gonna be hard to vote this year, for sure but I will never vote for Trump. I might vote for Hillary just to !%@*x& Tracy off.


    Good idea Steve, plus just think of the money we save on secret service personnel, President Clinton is already getting secret service protection, we can start getting our budget back under control?

    Mel

    Melvin H. Waldron III, CGCS, Horton Smith Golf Course, City of Springfield/Greene County MO

  26. Steven Huffstutler
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    3/24/2016 3:03 PM
    Honestly, I wouldn't trust any Clinton as far a I could throw one. Trump isn't an alternative for me though.



  27. Peter Bowman
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    3/24/2016 8:03 PM
    Steven Huffstutler, CGCS said: Honestly, I wouldn't trust any Clinton as far a I could throw one.......


    Can she pardon herself if the time comes?



  28. Steven Huffstutler
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    3/25/2016 8:03 AM
    Peter Bowman, CGCS said:
    Steven Huffstutler, CGCS said: Honestly, I wouldn't trust any Clinton as far a I could throw one.......


    Can she pardon herself if the time comes?


    I doubt that she's too worried. As a general rule, rich people don't go to prison.



  29. Sandy Clark
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    3/25/2016 10:03 AM
    Mel, you can't seriously compare the Reagan years when our soldiers were sitting around their bunks and a lunatic drives in with a loaded truck and blows everyone up with Hillary ignoring the pleas of her guy to get some help and then failing to respond when hell on earth broke out. She had a choice and failed in her leadership but swears real facts didn't happen, it was an lower staff members fault and then lies through her teeth. our guys were slaughtered in a well planned raid she had been warned about. The law enforcement person I am referring to that gave the two choices happens to be a lady and she detests. Hillary. Who cares if her facts were based on anything, after all, Hillary famously said what difference does it make when referring to why the raid on the embassy happened. Facts backing up an opinion are not necessary out of the lady I know if Hillary gets to ignore known facts she failed to act on. Like I said, I wouldn't call her a murderer but I detest everything about her. She is dirty and corrupt and is only out for Hillary Clinton!



  30. Stephen Okula
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    3/29/2016 1:03 PM
    Trump's latest campaign pledge is to ban the sale of shredded cheese.

    He promises to make America grate again.



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