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  1. Wahlin Scott B
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  2. Larry Stowell
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    10/15/2012 9:10 AM
    No replies on this one yet?



  3. Hardy Andrew
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    10/15/2012 10:10 AM
    Well I don't have a vote, but this certainly hits the "Heart of America" in my opinion. As an outsider Obama has really been a crappy President. But, is Romney really what you see improving America? We have a gentleman running the country in Canada that has made it easier (and more profitable) for Canadian companies to take their call centers and basic plant operations overseas. I'm afraid that the platform Mr. Romney is running on will lead you down the same road.



  4. Keith Fellenstein
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    10/15/2012 10:10 AM
    Andrew Hardy said: Well I don't have a vote, but this certainly hits the "Heart of America" in my opinion. As an outsider Obama has really been a crappy President. But, is Romney really what you see improving America? .


    For generations we have had to choose the lesser of two evils...this year is no different



  5. Albert Kronwall
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    10/15/2012 1:10 PM
    Andrew Hardy said: Well I don't have a vote, but this certainly hits the "Heart of America" in my opinion. As an outsider Obama has really been a crappy President. But, is Romney really what you see improving America? We have a gentleman running the country in Canada that has made it easier (and more profitable) for Canadian companies to take their call centers and basic plant operations overseas. I'm afraid that the platform Mr. Romney is running on will lead you down the same road.


    Andrew

    Do yourself a favor and listen to Romney explain his platform and not what the MSM (main stream media) tells you what his platform is. There is a vast difference between the two. Here in the USA you have to realize the MSM is liberal leaning therefore pro-Obama, so the reporting is not impartial.



  6. Wahlin Scott B
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    10/15/2012 1:10 PM
    Albert Kronwall said:
    Andrew

    Do yourself a favor and listen to Romney explain his platform and not what the MSM (main stream media) tells you what his platform is. There is a vast difference between the two. Here in the USA you have to realize the MSM is liberal leaning therefore pro-Obama, so the reporting is not impartial.


    And Andrew, if you listen to Willard long enough you will hear him profess all sides on all issues, whatever the group in front of him wants to hear.



  7. Jon Gansen
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    10/15/2012 2:10 PM
    Scott Wahlin, CGCS said: Romney's dream come true.
    http://freakoutnation.blogspot.com/2012/10/while-villifying-obama-in-ohio-over.html


    And why is this Romney's problem? Hasn't been at Bain for 10 years. Should ask where is the chosen one to come to the rescue. They probably arent union jobs!!!



  8. Albert Kronwall
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    10/15/2012 3:10 PM
    Scott Wahlin, CGCS said: Romney's dream come true.
    http://freakoutnation.blogspot.com/2012/10/while-villifying-obama-in-ohio-over.html


    Like I said you have to do some independent research because there is a lot of propaganda and statements taken out of context to support the agenda some people are peddling.

    Check your Mutual Funds you may be an investor in some of Bains many successful companies.
    AMC Entertainment, Burger King, Burlington Coat Factory, Clear Channel Communications, Dominos Pizza, Dunk n' Donuts, Guitar Center, The Sports Authority, Staples, Toys R Us, Warner Music Group, I could go on but I think you get the point.

    Watch our for investments in these companies that have filed for bankruptcy:
    Solyndra, Ener 1, Beacon Power, Abound Solar, Amonix Solar, Spectra Watt, Eastern Energy.



  9. Melvin Waldron
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    10/15/2012 3:10 PM
    Albert Kronwall said:
    Andrew Hardy said: Well I don't have a vote, but this certainly hits the "Heart of America" in my opinion. As an outsider Obama has really been a crappy President. But, is Romney really what you see improving America? We have a gentleman running the country in Canada that has made it easier (and more profitable) for Canadian companies to take their call centers and basic plant operations overseas. I'm afraid that the platform Mr. Romney is running on will lead you down the same road.


    Andrew

    Do yourself a favor and listen to Romney explain his platform and not what the MSM (main stream media) tells you what his platform is. There is a vast difference between the two. Here in the USA you have to realize the MSM is liberal leaning therefore pro-Obama, so the reporting is not impartial.


    Andy, where have you seen Gov. Romney explain his platform? He says he will cut taxes for everyone, raise military spending and to pay for it he will cut tax deductions, he will not say what deductions he will take away and who it will affect, he says it will only be for those higher income earners, but he won't say what amount that is. I don't see how the math will work. If you have a link please post.

    He just says it will, and Ryan said it has been done before at the debate, under President Kennedy and President Reagan. Well under Kennedy the tax rate for the high end was 91% and it dropped to 71% so we could still pay for our military spending and NASA and roads and bridges. When Reagan did it, he ended up having to raise some taxes or close some deductions to slow the rise of the nations debt. Romney and Ryan have not been clear, sounds good but like I have said I don't see how the math works. Now they will also say that it will allow the job creators to go out and hire people, with all the cash they are sitting on now and they haven't hired people, giving them more money I believe will not do it either. Didn't work during the 80's or during President' GW's term either. If Romney wants to win this thing, he needs to be clear on what he will cut. Heck if he would do that he might even get my vote, well except for that APA thing or as I call it, Obama/Romney care. He says his plan will cover pre-existing conditions but his campaign had to clarify it, that only if you already have insurance and don't get dropped or drop it. I'm not taking that change that my son gets screwed by the insurance companies.

    At least President Obama can tell you who he wants to raise taxes on and how much although VP Biden said during the debate it wasn't at $250,000 it was on those making a million or more. Maybe this is the plan to offer up tax increases at a million instead of $250,000.

    Mel

    Melvin H. Waldron III, CGCS, Horton Smith Golf Course, City of Springfield/Greene County MO

  10. Albert Kronwall
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    10/15/2012 4:10 PM
    Mel,

    Go to http://www.mittromney.com/jobs

    I will warn you on this site there is typical fluff involved with any campain, but if you take the inititive to read the information/policy sections you will find many of your answers.

    If you are looking for a 2,700 page legal-eze break-down of his plan you won't find it here, but you will get a better understanding of what the Romney/Ryan plan is.



  11. Hardy Andrew
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    10/16/2012 5:10 AM
    Its a proven fact that when you tax the rich they look to recoup that money somewhere. So they move their companies out of the "heart of America" and into China or India. That's all that I'm seeing. Obama has talked of raising taxes for all, he's at least screwing all of you to your face.



  12. Steven Kurta
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    10/16/2012 10:10 AM



  13. Robert Crockett
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    10/16/2012 4:10 PM
    Just keep giving facts to the Liberal"s and they shut up..it's amazing



  14. Wahlin Scott B
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    10/16/2012 5:10 PM
    Robert Crockett said: Just keep giving facts to the Liberal"s and they shut up..it's amazing


    ... or something like that!



  15. Melvin Waldron
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    10/16/2012 6:10 PM
    Robert Crockett said: Just keep giving facts to the Liberal"s and they shut up..it's amazing


    What facts Robert, Andy did put on that link to Gov. Romney's page, he was right it was pretty much fluff. It gave the broad idea of the Gov. on his tax policy but it sure wasn't facts. It sure didn't have the math to explain how it's going to work.

    Anyone catch Chris Wallace hammering Gillespie who works for the Romney campaign on what deductions the Romney plan would cut and Gillespie didn't answer. He just mentioned some studies which Wallace did not give any credibility to.

    Andrew, I can see the point you are making about taxing corporations, but isn't there some point where chasing more profits can come back to hurt a company? It probably depends on the product, but when American workers are not getting paid to make things because the product is being made in some other country, then how can they afford to buy the product? All to make sure our investments grow? And then the infrastructure those companies need to move and sell their products don't get rebuilt or improved? There's got to be revenue to do those things. There needs to be some balance in my opinion.

    Mel

    Melvin H. Waldron III, CGCS, Horton Smith Golf Course, City of Springfield/Greene County MO

  16. Albert Kronwall
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    10/16/2012 7:10 PM
    Melvin Waldron, CGCS said:
    Robert Crockett said: Just keep giving facts to the Liberal"s and they shut up..it's amazing


    What facts Robert, Andy did put on that link to Gov. Romney's page, he was right it was pretty much fluff. It gave the broad idea of the Gov. on his tax policy but it sure wasn't facts. It sure didn't have the math to explain how it's going to work.

    Anyone catch Chris Wallace hammering Gillespie who works for the Romney campaign on what deductions the Romney plan would cut and Gillespie didn't answer. He just mentioned some studies which Wallace did not give any credibility to.

    Andrew, I can see the point you are making about taxing corporations, but isn't there some point where chasing more profits can come back to hurt a company? It probably depends on the product, but when American workers are not getting paid to make things because the product is being made in some other country, then how can they afford to buy the product? All to make sure our investments grow? And then the infrastructure those companies need to move and sell their products don't get rebuilt or improved? There's got to be revenue to do those things. There needs to be some balance in my opinion.

    Mel


    What are you looking for? If Romney tries to explain his plan down to the minutiae the general populations eyes will roll back. You are requiring extreme detail from Romney but no one on the left questioned Obama on his plan when he was a candidate. Obamacare was jammed through with "you have to pass it to see what's in it" and that was acceptable to the left. Obama was elected on the slogan "Hope and Change" without any specifics and now you are holding Romney to a different standard. Doesn't that sound hypocritical to you?

    Goods and services are global, the USA is not the only place in the world to do business, like it or not profit is the driving force for commerce. If our government keeps penalizing success job creators will continue to go elsewhere.



  17. Melvin Waldron
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    10/16/2012 8:10 PM
    Albert Kronwall said:
    Melvin Waldron, CGCS said:
    Robert Crockett said: Just keep giving facts to the Liberal"s and they shut up..it's amazing


    What facts Robert, Andy did put on that link to Gov. Romney's page, he was right it was pretty much fluff. It gave the broad idea of the Gov. on his tax policy but it sure wasn't facts. It sure didn't have the math to explain how it's going to work.

    Anyone catch Chris Wallace hammering Gillespie who works for the Romney campaign on what deductions the Romney plan would cut and Gillespie didn't answer. He just mentioned some studies which Wallace did not give any credibility to.

    Andrew, I can see the point you are making about taxing corporations, but isn't there some point where chasing more profits can come back to hurt a company? It probably depends on the product, but when American workers are not getting paid to make things because the product is being made in some other country, then how can they afford to buy the product? All to make sure our investments grow? And then the infrastructure those companies need to move and sell their products don't get rebuilt or improved? There's got to be revenue to do those things. There needs to be some balance in my opinion.

    Mel


    What are you looking for? If Romney tries to explain his plan down to the minutiae the general populations eyes will roll back. You are requiring extreme detail from Romney but no one on the left questioned Obama on his plan when he was a candidate. Obamacare was jammed through with "you have to pass it to see what's in it" and that was acceptable to the left. Obama was elected on the slogan "Hope and Change" without any specifics and now you are holding Romney to a different standard. Doesn't that sound hypocritical to you?

    Goods and services are global, the USA is not the only place in the world to do business, like it or not profit is the driving force for commerce. If our government keeps penalizing success job creators will continue to go elsewhere.


    Andy, so I am suppose to "Trust" Gov. Romney? Trust a politician? Are you kidding me? I don't think Romney needs to provide the minutiae of his plan but how about some simple answers? Hey he did just state we can pick our own deductions in the debate, now that's at least something, I still don't think the math works. As for the comment of the minutiae rolling back people's eyes.....maybe they shouldn't be allowed to vote if they are just going to be sheep.

    The president did provide the basics to many of his plans, I remember during the health care fight, he explained what would be in it, of course no one wanted to read the 2700 pages but we knew the basics of it.

    We have cut taxes for job creators why haven't they created jobs here? Well they have it's been slow but private job growth has continued for a few years now. They have been given tax breaks to hire, tax breaks to hire vets, they have tax breaks for providing health care, they get tax breaks for investments in new equipment, some job creators don't pay any income taxes (GE). Now their employees do, which is good I suppose, I do say small businesses suffer the most because they don't have the staff or resources to find all the deductions. I'm all for willing to level the playing field for job creators, but they need to pay taxes just like anyone else since they rely on the services and infrastructure.

    Mel

    Melvin H. Waldron III, CGCS, Horton Smith Golf Course, City of Springfield/Greene County MO

  18. Melvin Waldron
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    10/22/2012 3:10 PM
    Albert Kronwall said:
    Scott Wahlin, CGCS said: Romney's dream come true.
    http://freakoutnation.blogspot.com/2012/10/while-villifying-obama-in-ohio-over.html


    Like I said you have to do some independent research because there is a lot of propaganda and statements taken out of context to support the agenda some people are peddling.

    Check your Mutual Funds you may be an investor in some of Bains many successful companies.
    AMC Entertainment, Burger King, Burlington Coat Factory, Clear Channel Communications, Dominos Pizza, Dunk n' Donuts, Guitar Center, The Sports Authority, Staples, Toys R Us, Warner Music Group, I could go on but I think you get the point.

    Watch our for investments in these companies that have filed for bankruptcy:
    Solyndra, Ener 1, Beacon Power, Abound Solar, Amonix Solar, Spectra Watt, Eastern Energy.


    Andy, these many successful companies (well I didn't know Burger King was still successful), one thing I think they have in common, how many mom and pop/small businesses have they run out of business, the same small businesses that the republicans claim to want to help and claim the president is killing with his policies? Seems both sides are probably guilty of not doing enough for small businesses.

    As for Sensata, here they are turning a profit, then why move the company's manufacturing? Just to help the bottom line of our mutual funds, hey I want mine to perform well too, but at what price? How much is too much? Is this move all based on greed? If the company had expanding markets, and wanted to produce in other countries to avoid tariffs and the like I could understand it better, but just to make more of a profit? I'm sure that is a simplistic view, and there could be more to it then that, and if that is the case I think it would be a great PR move for the company to explain it. Just my opinion.

    Mel

    Melvin H. Waldron III, CGCS, Horton Smith Golf Course, City of Springfield/Greene County MO

  19. Hardy Andrew
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    10/23/2012 5:10 AM
    Spin this any way you want. But I watched the debate the other night and you guys are in for four more years of crap. And the sad part is where I live is greatly affected by this election. We've been through 12 years of lost relations with America (some is our own fault ie- not joining you in Iraq was poor foreign policy on our part) and we too would like to see someone who views Canada as more than the country who let half the 9/11 pilots into America.

    Hopefully someone somewhat credible decides to run in '16



  20. Michael Wagner
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    10/24/2012 9:10 AM
    Bottom line is it doesn't matter what either candidates platform is or how they explain it as opposed to the mainstream media because usually 75% of what any president says they plan to do gets turned upside down when actually in office. They are pressured from many different angles that manipulate their intentions into something completely different from what they said in the first place. I find it hard to get behind anyone leading this country because I know when they are in office things change. Obama-care for instance is probably the most commonly known policy that fits into this scenario. When he first spoke of it, good intentions were in the mix. After trying to please everyone and changing how it would work multiple times it was mashed into what I would call the worst removal of American's rights in history. Sad part is that most of America is so brainwashed by MSM that they think they must pick the lesser of 2 evils and rarely end up considering another party's candidate. Not that it would matter anyway since it's not really up to them but a group called the electoral college that can choose either way no matter what the voters say. I guess what I'm getting at is that in the 18th and 19 centuries our government structure worked well and since then in the 20th and 21st centuries it no longer works properly and should be restructured to fit todays needs. When most people don't really care for either of the 2 main candidates it means there is a problem where the governmet is no longer serving the people but rather itself and the entities that manipulate it such as corporate super powers. I see America in decline and I don't like it.



  21. Wahlin Scott B
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    10/24/2012 11:10 AM
    Michael Wagner said: Bottom line is it doesn't matter what either candidates platform is or how they explain it as opposed to the mainstream media because usually 75% of what any president says they plan to do gets turned upside down when actually in office. They are pressured from many different angles that manipulate their intentions into something completely different from what they said in the first place. I find it hard to get behind anyone leading this country because I know when they are in office things change. Obama-care for instance is probably the most commonly known policy that fits into this scenario. When he first spoke of it, good intentions were in the mix. After trying to please everyone and changing how it would work multiple times it was mashed into what I would call the worst removal of American's rights in history. Would that be the right to have society pay for your healthcare? Sad part is that most of America is so brainwashed by MSM that they think they must pick the lesser of 2 evils and rarely end up considering another party's candidate. Not that it would matter anyway since it's not really up to them but a group called the electoral college that can choose either way no matter what the voters say. I guess what I'm getting at is that in the 18th and 19 centuries our government structure worked well and since then in the 20th and 21st centuries it no longer works properly and should be restructured to fit todays needs. When most people don't really care for either of the 2 main candidates it means there is a problem where the governmet is no longer serving the people but rather itself and the entities that manipulate it such as corporate super powers. I see America in decline and I don't like it.Written like a true tea partier.



  22. Melvin Waldron
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    10/24/2012 11:10 AM
    Michael Wagner said: Bottom line is it doesn't matter what either candidates platform is or how they explain it as opposed to the mainstream media because usually 75% of what any president says they plan to do gets turned upside down when actually in office. They are pressured from many different angles that manipulate their intentions into something completely different from what they said in the first place. I find it hard to get behind anyone leading this country because I know when they are in office things change. Obama-care for instance is probably the most commonly known policy that fits into this scenario. When he first spoke of it, good intentions were in the mix. After trying to please everyone and changing how it would work multiple times it was mashed into what I would call the worst removal of American's rights in history. Sad part is that most of America is so brainwashed by MSM that they think they must pick the lesser of 2 evils and rarely end up considering another party's candidate. Not that it would matter anyway since it's not really up to them but a group called the electoral college that can choose either way no matter what the voters say. I guess what I'm getting at is that in the 18th and 19 centuries our government structure worked well and since then in the 20th and 21st centuries it no longer works properly and should be restructured to fit todays needs. When most people don't really care for either of the 2 main candidates it means there is a problem where the government is no longer serving the people but rather itself and the entities that manipulate it such as corporate super powers. I see America in decline and I don't like it.


    Can't disagree with your argument Michael, your making some good points. I did notice you mention about restructuring government to fit our needs today, that sounds like blasphemy for those on the right, if I'm guessing your talking about changing the constitution? Or that strict interpretation of it as all the GOP candidates in our state say? I will say the constitution as I understand it is a living document and changes to it such as ending slavery and the voting rights acts for both women and blacks were indications that change, good change is acceptable, just like looking at the second amendment in my opinion, I don't disagree with those having the right to bare arms under that amendment, but the question always is, what type of arms may they bare? Good comments from you.

    Mel

    Melvin H. Waldron III, CGCS, Horton Smith Golf Course, City of Springfield/Greene County MO

  23. Michael Wagner
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    10/24/2012 12:10 PM
    @Scott -- Actually the right I am speaking of is the "pursuit of happiness." Taking money out of my pocket and forcing me to buy health insurance that I don't need or want is a direct interference in my pursuit.

    @Mel -- Yes some constitutional restructuring would be helpful but my main concern is taking individuality away from corporations.



  24. Wahlin Scott B
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    10/24/2012 12:10 PM
    Michael Wagner said: @Scott -- Actually the right I am speaking of is the "pursuit of happiness." Taking money out of my pocket and forcing me to buy health insurance that I don't need or want is a direct interference in my pursuit.
    If you get hurt or sick, who pays your bills?
    @Mel -- Yes some constitutional restructuring would be helpful but my main concern is taking individuality away from corporations.



  25. Melvin Waldron
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    10/24/2012 3:10 PM
    Michael Wagner said: @Scott -- Actually the right I am speaking of is the "pursuit of happiness." Taking money out of my pocket and forcing me to buy health insurance that I don't need or want is a direct interference in my pursuit.

    @Mel -- Yes some constitutional restructuring would be helpful but my main concern is taking individuality away from corporations.


    But as Gov. Romney says "Corporations are people my friend", not that I agree with that. As I re-read your post, I'm not sure if your concerned that corporations loose their individuality or what? I understand they pay taxes and should have a voice, but doesn't the owner have a voice as well? Now that's two voices for one company, yeah I know there are many different types of corporations, companies and businesses. Part of the problem government makes it more complicated then it should because of who they tend to listen too.

    Mel

    Melvin H. Waldron III, CGCS, Horton Smith Golf Course, City of Springfield/Greene County MO

  26. Stephen Okula
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    10/24/2012 3:10 PM
    Michael Wagner said: I guess what I'm getting at is that in the 18th and 19 centuries our government structure worked well and since then in the 20th and 21st centuries it no longer works properly and should be restructured to fit todays needs.


    Yeah, in the 18th century the government was so good it fostered a revolution. In the 19th century things were humming along smoothly, except for slavery, a civil war, and ethnic cleansing of aboriginal Americans, of course. Minor glitches, like the fact that only white men were allowed to vote.

    The good old days. If only our government today would provide us with some revolutions and genocide, but then the lame stream media would probably only criticize it.



  27. Steven Kurta
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    10/24/2012 10:10 PM
    GENOCIDE! WOOHOO!



  28. Hardy Andrew
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    10/25/2012 5:10 AM
    I guess I have to digress. Things could be worse than these two idiots........can you say Donald Trump



  29. Michael Wagner
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    10/25/2012 11:10 AM
    Scott I pay my own bills. Also I'm a firm believer of survival of the fittest so if by chance i do get sick and cant afford to pay for the treatment I would go without or find an inexpensive homeopathic method to deal with it.



  30. Ronald Conard
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    10/25/2012 11:10 AM
    Michael Wagner said: Scott I pay my own bills. Also I'm a firm believer of survival of the fittest so if by chance i do get sick and cant afford to pay for the treatment I would go without or find an inexpensive homeopathic method to deal with it.


    That's a touch idealistic isn't it? It almost sounds like the former Colorado Governor Dick Lamm's comments stating the elderly have a duty to die.



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