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1. Wallace Jeffrey V

   
   5/7/2012 4:05 PM

   Larry Allan said:

   Jeffrey Wallace, CGCS said:

   Larry Allan said:
   
   I should have looked for your approval, Keith. My mistake. Jeffie has issues with Canada and its people after a cross border pepper spraying incident

   
   
   Five hundred dollars is not an "incident". It's highway robbery.

   
   
   One should always be aware, that when entering a sovereign nation, one much respect their laws and customs. I always do my best to become narrow minded and obnoxious when entering yours

   
   
   Hey! We print our customs forms in English and Canadian. If you guys did the same, I wouldn't have had a problem. Although I do remember exclaiming loudly, "I'M AN AMERICAN! I HAVE RIGHTS!"
   
   Perhaps that "may" have contributed to the fine. Canadians don't like being yelled at. [size=50">Sorry.[/size">

   
   
   
   
2. Wahlin Scott B

   
   5/7/2012 5:05 PM

   "The nation we need to rebuild is ours!" President Barack Obama
   
   [youtube">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K86sztC1ZUs[/youtube">

   
   
   
   
3. Keith Lamb

   

   3 posts
   
   5/7/2012 6:05 PM

   Scott Wahlin, CGCS said: "The nation we need to rebuild is ours!" President Barack Obama
   
   [youtube">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K86sztC1ZUs[/youtube">

   
   
   
   Scott, quit trying to hijack this thread. I'll slap you with some back bacon......whatever that is.

   
   
   
   
4. Ashton Alan W

   
   5/8/2012 10:05 AM

   [img">http://images.cheezburger.com/completestore/2011/3/26/fe980cb2-7e3c-4973-97bc-fd7f76049814.jpg[/img">
   
   I had to look!

   
   
   
   
5. Larry Allan

   

   0 posts
   
   5/8/2012 11:05 AM

   Never heard of Canadian Bacon til I went to the States
   Our crop of Peameal Bacon is just getting planted as we speak. They alternate rows of poutine with it.The poutine has something in it that repels insects, they say

   
   
   
   
6. McCallum David K

   
   5/8/2012 12:05 PM

   Robert I am late to this debate.......work has called the last day or so....busy busy busy punching holes. Sorry no comma's. Do not worry about the GCSAA forum police and freedom of speech issues. If Rep McGovern, from Ma gets his way speaking anywhere if you are in a group (this mob is definitely a group) may be banned. Along with none other than Ms Pelosi and 26 other democrats and one republican (huh) the good congressman has proposed a constitutional amendment to the First Amendment........to radically contract freedom of speech protections and to vastly expand government power ( imagine that a democrat trying to expand the power of government, who would have thunk it?) . Your ability to complain about lets just say a Barrack Hussein Obama in the future may be curtailed. You say..............nah that could never happen right..........one only has to forget history for it to repeat itself........some places in Europe come to mind.

   
   
   
   
7. Steven Huffstutler

   

   11 posts
   
   5/8/2012 1:05 PM

   Larry Allan said:

   Keith Lamb said:

   Larry Allan said: PS. Jeffie, did I use the correct to,too,two?

   
   
   Why the Hell are you asking him? Geezus hoser!
   
   [size=85">(((((waiting for a ruling from J-Wall)))))[/size">

   
   
   I should have looked for your approval, Keith. My mistake. Jeffie has issues with Canada and its people after a cross border pepper spraying incident

   
   
   
   Not enough poutine?

   
   
   
   
8. Wahlin Scott B

   
   5/8/2012 1:05 PM

   The People's Rights Amendment would overturn the Supreme Court's ruling that corporations are people. As always David you and I are diametrically opposed in our opinion, but then again I don't watch Fox News. The Koch Bros will still be able say what they want and donate what they want, they just cannot hide anymore.

   
   
   
   
9. Wahlin Scott B

   
   5/8/2012 1:05 PM

   Larry Allan said: Never heard of Canadian Bacon til I went to the States
   Our crop of Peameal Bacon is just getting planted as we speak. They alternate rows of poutine with it.The poutine has something in it that repels insects, they say

   
   
   I remember Ted Nugent singing songs about poutine, but I thought he was referring to something else.

   
   
   
   
10. Robert Crockett

    

    4 posts
    
    5/8/2012 2:05 PM

    David McCallum said: Robert I am late to this debate.......work has called the last day or so....busy busy busy punching holes. Sorry no comma's. Do not worry about the GCSAA forum police and freedom of speech issues. If Rep McGovern, from Ma gets his way speaking anywhere if you are in a group (this mob is definitely a group) may be banned. Along with none other than Ms Pelosi and 26 other democrats and one republican (huh) the good congressman has proposed a constitutional amendment to the First Amendment........to radically contract freedom of speech protections and to vastly expand government power ( imagine that a democrat trying to expand the power of government, who would have thunk it?) . Your ability to complain about lets just say a Barrack Hussein Obama in the future may be curtailed. You say..............nah that could never happen right..........one only has to forget history for it to repeat itself........some places in Europe come to mind.

    
    Words of Historical Wisdom David

    
    
    
    
11. Steven Kurta

    

    2 posts
    
    5/8/2012 8:05 PM

    Godwin's Law in action. You guys need some fresh air.

    
    
    
    
12. Steven Kurta

    

    2 posts
    
    5/8/2012 8:05 PM

    Deep breathes DMC.
    
    [quote">"Corporations are not people," said Congressman McGovern. "They do not breathe. They do not have children. They do not die in war. They are artificial entities which we the people create and, as such, we govern them, not the other way around."
    
    
    [quote">The Supreme Court's 5-4 ruling in Citizens United v. FEC swept away a century of precedent barring corporate political expenditures and unleashed a torrent of corporate spending in US elections. The ruling applied the doctrine of corporate constitutional rights, a doctrine which corporations have used in recent years to strike down various federal and state laws designed to protect the public interest.

    
    
    
    
13. Dennis Cook

    

    1 posts
    
    5/9/2012 5:05 AM

    Melvin Waldron, CGCS said: Dennis,
    
    I don't believe Robert would be leaning left, yet he was "keeping score", so I don't want to think this would be a right and left issue, especially if we take what you say at your word. Being more specific or with examples would be helpful. I do think both sides could and might keep score depending on the issues.
    
    I will give another example, we are a big republican area in SW. MO, we have a voter petition started by a bunch that wanted to force all businesses to use e-verify here in the city limits, it did pass. We haven't had immigration hiring issues, but the fear purposed by these people I am guessing that were on the right caused the vote to pass.

    
    
    Mel, it was a mere sarcastic response of "keeping score". But the left is always bringing up identity politics, including this thread where gay marriage was brought up. The right did not start the issue of gay marriage, they are simply defending the sanctity of marriage after the left brings it up. The left is always bringing up some sort way to politically divide groups. Like the whole contraception thing. When did the right say we wanted to ban contraception? We didnt. But they sure want to let woman know that we have a war on them. Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson and Obama frequently drop the race card and try to make minorities feel like we are trying to hold them back, but in reality we want everyone to succeed. The left says we are racially profiling when we are simply trying to follow laws and make any immigrant come here legally. Thats why we can enact a bill about illegal immigrant workers, because we want our laws followed, regardless of race. The left sues our own states over illegal immigration and they make the right out to be racist because were trying to follow the law.

    
    
    
    
14. Robert Crockett

    

    4 posts
    
    5/9/2012 6:05 AM

    Steven Kurta said: Godwin's Law in action. You guys need some fresh air.

    
    LMAO on that one

    
    
    
    
15. McCallum David K

    
    5/9/2012 6:05 AM

    No worry Steve, I run almost every morning and ride my bike most evenings.....breathing deep comes easy. That advice might be better served directed at your good friend Scott.

    
    
    
    
16. Wahlin Scott B

    
    5/9/2012 7:05 AM

    Dennis Cook said: Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson and Obama frequently drop the race card.

    
    
    "Government (what?)" I did not quite catch that.
    
    [youtube">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=egtaV6Pj8yI[/youtube">

    
    
    
    
17. Dennis Cook

    

    1 posts
    
    5/9/2012 8:05 AM

    Scott Wahlin, CGCS said:

    Dennis Cook said: Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson and Obama frequently drop the race card.

    
    
    "Government (what?)" I did not quite catch that.
    
    [youtube">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=egtaV6Pj8yI[/youtube">

    
    
    You didnt catch that because nothing was said. I guess Obama saying "my muslim faith" was just a slip of the tongue as well.

    
    
    
    
18. Larry Allan

    

    0 posts
    
    5/9/2012 8:05 AM

    Dennis Cook said:

    Melvin Waldron, CGCS said: Dennis,
    
    I don't believe Robert would be leaning left, yet he was "keeping score", so I don't want to think this would be a right and left issue, especially if we take what you say at your word. Being more specific or with examples would be helpful. I do think both sides could and might keep score depending on the issues.
    
    I will give another example, we are a big republican area in SW. MO, we have a voter petition started by a bunch that wanted to force all businesses to use e-verify here in the city limits, it did pass. We haven't had immigration hiring issues, but the fear purposed by these people I am guessing that were on the right caused the vote to pass.

    
    
    Mel, it was a mere sarcastic response of "keeping score". But the left is always bringing up identity politics, including this thread where gay marriage was brought up. The left is always bringing up some sort way to politically divide groups. Like the whole contraception thing. When did the right say we wanted to ban contraception? We didnt. But they sure want to let woman know that we have a war on them. Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson and Obama frequently drop the race card and try to make minorities feel like we are trying to hold them back, but in reality we want everyone to succeed. The left says we are racially profiling when we are simply trying to follow laws and make any immigrant come here legally. Thats why we can enact a bill about illegal immigrant workers, because we want our laws followed, regardless of race. The left sues our own states over illegal immigration and they make the right out to be racist because were trying to follow the law.

    
    I guess we get our news from different sources, Dennis. Every time I see a bill limiting female reproductive rights it seems to be proposed by a male conservative. Those who fight the hardest fight against same sex marriage are usually male conservative closet homosexuals.
    You conservative guys talk wildly about personal freedoms and how you are loosing yours, but you always seem the first to ban personal freedom for others.
    We have legalized same sex marriage for the last 10 or so years and it hasn't negatively affected anyone in any way.
    We have no law on abortion (it's between the doctor and patient) and our abortion rate is lower
    Prostitution is legal and there is no issue
    
    The Land of the Free, really isn't

    
    
    
    
19. McCallum David K

    
    5/9/2012 9:05 AM

    Scott and Steve I am very impressed with the integrity and confidence you place in our government. Especially since I consider you both to be inelligent guys, though perhaps misguided. I on the other hand am a bit more skeptical of anything the goverment wants to do.......the old axiom " I'm from the goverment and I'm here to help you" I do not see a need for Congressman McGovern's change in the First Admendment. What is the need for controlling the speech of "corporations" as you put it. What corporation comes to mind that has spoken something so egregious that we must limit their right to free speech? Can you site a specific incident?
    
    On the other hand every newspaper, television network, radio talk shows (now are we on to a motive perhaps), organizations such as the NRA (another terrorists group in most liberals minds), are all corporations ..........his bill is explicitly designed to prohibit such rights to "natural persons" that come together to excercise their First Admendment rights of freedom of speech in an association of others that share the same viewpoints. An infringement of more than just the First as it also delves into perhaps the Fourth and Fifth as well........sticky fingers attract a lot of flies. Magazines such as Forbes that leans a little right and the Wall Street journal could be silenced...........perhaps a church..........noooooooo say it ain't so Scotty! I suppose a liberal thinks you have a "inalienable right" until you band together to speak as one.
    
    The LEFT controls viturally 99% of the unions in this country ( one only has to look at their voting in national elections to prove the point) and probably 75% if not more of academia, and 99% of the mainstream media. Still they are not satisfied with their control of and their lack of confidence and powers of persuasion that they must control the speech of others..........the left will go to no end to attempt to stamp out anyone or any corporation that dares to disagee with them. Be careful Scott and Steve.......you two in consortum may be deemed a corporation and someone might come take your computer away. That is farfetched though as you both are believers in the party line.

    
    
    
    
20. Keith Lamb

    

    3 posts
    
    5/9/2012 11:05 AM

    With the divorce right around 50%, I'm waiting for heterosexuals to protect the sanctity of marriage.

    
    
    
    
21. Wahlin Scott B

    
    5/9/2012 11:05 AM

    The Citizen United decision by the Supreme Court found that the McCain-Feingold Act was unconstitutional, that corporations and unions had freedom of speech, and could spend as much as they wanted in order to affect the outcome of an election. In addition, many corporations have used their new found freedoms, identical to those of an individual citizen to effect other changes as well. The Peoples Rights Amendment goes on to specifically eliminate in Section 3 any limitation on an individuals First Amendment Rights.
    
    The People's Rights Amendment makes clear that the words "people'' and "person'' in our Constitution mean human beings. - Tom Michelman, Freeman trail supporter

    
    
    
    
22. McCallum David K

    
    5/9/2012 12:05 PM

    Keith, the next constitutionally protected minority.

    
    
    
    
23. McCallum David K

    
    5/9/2012 12:05 PM

    His People's RIghts Admendment declares that the constitution protects only the rights of "natural persons" as I previously stated.................NOT such "persons " organized within a corporation and that CONGRESS can impose on corporations whatever restrictions CONGRESS deems reasonable. Be careful they may come for you and Steve since you are obviously working as a corporation in fighting my post............hell next thing you could be at Gitmo being water boarded for 10 seconds at a time and forced to drink Insure........but a little weight loss is good for all of us.

    
    
    
    
24. Robert Crockett

    

    4 posts
    
    5/9/2012 2:05 PM

    Scott Wahlin, CGCS said: The Citizen United decision by the Supreme Court found that the McCain-Feingold Act was unconstitutional, that corporations and unions had freedom of speech, and could spend as much as they wanted in order to affect the outcome of an election. In addition, many corporations have used their new found freedoms, identical to those of an individual citizen to effect other changes as well. The Peoples Rights Amendment goes on to specifically eliminate in Section 3 any limitation on an individuals First Amendment Rights.
    
    The People's Rights Amendment makes clear that the words "people'' and "person'' in our Constitution mean human beings. - Tom Michelman, Freeman trail supporter

    
    So it seems Scott...that if you find what your looking for and it's what YOU WANT Than it"s ok.......Figures Just MY(ment to be white to the left) Opinion

    
    
    
    
25. Robert Crockett

    

    4 posts
    
    5/9/2012 2:05 PM

    Robert Crockett said:

    Scott Wahlin, CGCS said: The Citizen United decision by the Supreme Court found that the McCain-Feingold Act was unconstitutional, that corporations and unions had freedom of speech, and could spend as much as they wanted in order to affect the outcome of an election. In addition, many corporations have used their new found freedoms, identical to those of an individual citizen to effect other changes as well. The Peoples Rights Amendment goes on to specifically eliminate in Section 3 any limitation on an individuals First Amendment Rights.
    
    The People's Rights Amendment makes clear that the words "people'' and "person'' in our Constitution mean human beings. - Tom Michelman, Freeman trail supporter

    
    So it seems Scott...that if you find what your looking for and it's what YOU WANT Than it"s ok.......Figures Just MY(ment to be white to the left) Opinion

    
    It amazes me how Liberals think they can say whatever they want as if it is absolute truth and no one is entitled (there's that word!) to another opinion.

    
    
    
    
26. Wallace Jeffrey V

    
    5/9/2012 3:05 PM

    Robert Crockett said:

    Robert Crockett said:

    Scott Wahlin, CGCS said: The Citizen United decision by the Supreme Court found that the McCain-Feingold Act was unconstitutional, that corporations and unions had freedom of speech, and could spend as much as they wanted in order to affect the outcome of an election. In addition, many corporations have used their new found freedoms, identical to those of an individual citizen to effect other changes as well. The Peoples Rights Amendment goes on to specifically eliminate in Section 3 any limitation on an individuals First Amendment Rights.
    
    The People's Rights Amendment makes clear that the words "people'' and "person'' in our Constitution mean human beings. - Tom Michelman, Freeman trail supporter

    
    So it seems Scott...that if you find what your looking for and it's what YOU WANT Than it"s ok.......Figures Just MY(ment to be white to the left) Opinion

    
    It amazes me how Liberals think they can say whatever they want as if it is absolute truth and no one is entitled (there's that word!) to another opinion.

    
    
    Dear Sybil,
    
    You're replying to your own posts. Or......are you?

    
    
    
    
27. Jon Gansen

    

    1 posts
    
    5/9/2012 4:05 PM

    Scott Wahlin, CGCS said: The Citizen United decision by the Supreme Court found that the McCain-Feingold Act was unconstitutional, that corporations and unions had freedom of speech, and could spend as much as they wanted in order to affect the outcome of an election. In addition, many corporations have used their new found freedoms, identical to those of an individual citizen to effect other changes as well. The Peoples Rights Amendment goes on to specifically eliminate in Section 3 any limitation on an individuals First Amendment Rights.
    
    The People's Rights Amendment makes clear that the words "people'' and "person'' in our Constitution mean human beings. - Tom Michelman, Freeman trail supporter

    
    
    
    1."that corporations and unions had freedom of speech" 2."many corporations have used their new found freedoms, identical to those of an individual citizen "
    
    In the second quote Union is not used. Why are the Unions not included in this line? Definition of corporation:
    
    1.A company or group of people authorized to act as a single entity (legally a person) and recognized as such in law.
    This bill bends the law to play to the Unions and Libs to keep their coffers full..
    Now Scott tell me what is right about this bill... No wait its because Corportations are evil and corrupt and white conservative racist fat cats....

    
    
    
    
28. Wahlin Scott B

    
    5/9/2012 4:05 PM

    Okay, add unions to the second statement as well. Corporations, LLCs, Unions, Churches, etc. are all defined and protected by law. They should be regulated by law as well. The Bill of Rights was meant to protect individual natural people, not corporations as defined and allowed by law.

    
    
    
    
29. Robert Crockett

    

    4 posts
    
    5/9/2012 5:05 PM

    Jeffrey Wallace, CGCS said:

    Robert Crockett said:

    Robert Crockett said:

    Scott Wahlin, CGCS said: The Citizen United decision by the Supreme Court found that the McCain-Feingold Act was unconstitutional, that corporations and unions had freedom of speech, and could spend as much as they wanted in order to affect the outcome of an election. In addition, many corporations have used their new found freedoms, identical to those of an individual citizen to effect other changes as well. The Peoples Rights Amendment goes on to specifically eliminate in Section 3 any limitation on an individuals First Amendment Rights.
    
    The People's Rights Amendment makes clear that the words "people'' and "person'' in our Constitution mean human beings. - Tom Michelman, Freeman trail supporter

    
    So it seems Scott...that if you find what your looking for and it's what YOU WANT Than it"s ok.......Figures Just MY(ment to be white to the left) Opinion

    
    It amazes me how Liberals think they can say whatever they want as if it is absolute truth and no one is entitled (there's that word!) to another opinion.

    
    
    Dear Sybil,
    
    You're replying to your own posts. Or......are you?

    
    There you go again Mr. Wallace....has it been a Month yet? Is it that time again? Gonna start writing in Red? Read it again and closer

    
    
    
    
30. Keith Lamb

    

    3 posts
    
    5/9/2012 7:05 PM

    Robert Crockett said:

    Jeffrey Wallace, CGCS said:

    Robert Crockett said:

    Robert Crockett said:

    Scott Wahlin, CGCS said: The Citizen United decision by the Supreme Court found that the McCain-Feingold Act was unconstitutional, that corporations and unions had freedom of speech, and could spend as much as they wanted in order to affect the outcome of an election. In addition, many corporations have used their new found freedoms, identical to those of an individual citizen to effect other changes as well. The Peoples Rights Amendment goes on to specifically eliminate in Section 3 any limitation on an individuals First Amendment Rights.
    
    The People's Rights Amendment makes clear that the words "people'' and "person'' in our Constitution mean human beings. - Tom Michelman, Freeman trail supporter

    
    So it seems Scott...that if you find what your looking for and it's what YOU WANT Than it"s ok.......Figures Just MY(ment to be white to the left) Opinion

    
    It amazes me how Liberals think they can say whatever they want as if it is absolute truth and no one is entitled (there's that word!) to another opinion.

    
    
    Dear Sybil,
    
    You're replying to your own posts. Or......are you?

    
    There you go again Mr. Wallace....has it been a Month yet? Is it that time again? Gonna start writing in Red? Read it again and closer

    
    
    Ha ha, JWall....burned you! Time of the month.........you're killing me. The only text I'm gonna highlight in RED are the periods.